Very cool and the kind of thing that makes this hobby interesting and mysterious!
Congrats on this pickup.
Would love to know more of its origin, but that is probably lost to time.
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@topstuf said:
Both flintlock and percussion cap would be very odd on a break action.
I'll say it is an external hammer type cartridge gun.
Can it not be just percussion cap and breech?
Only if they used a paper cartridge and it would be unwieldy and impractical for hunting.
If they didn't, how could they pour powder into a breech and close it without it pouring out?
Very impressive.... Professional grade engraving. Being a firearms aficionado, I would love to have seen this coin at a shop or show...Yep, would have purchased it... Cheers, RickO
The gun, while nicely done, is odd.
I would have to guess that it was done for someone who liked to hunt or liked guns. Pretty sure it was a gift.
It could have been done by the giver or hired out ( most likely )
It would have to be done after the common use of break action shotguns.
Early shotguns (almost always muzzle-loaders) used black powder, paper or fiber wadding, and loose shot. After that, straight-walled brass cartridges (similar to over-sized rifle cartridges) were used beginning somewhere around the Civil War. Many of these guns used exposed hammers to impact the primer. In the late 1800s brass cases gave way to paper-wall shells which persisted to the 1960s or so.
@Realone said:
Getting closer figuring out who this might have been gifted to.
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That's a really well-detailed engraving, and the coin has a very nice look overall.
Thanks for sharing!
Very cool and the kind of thing that makes this hobby interesting and mysterious!
Congrats on this pickup.
Would love to know more of its origin, but that is probably lost to time.
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Great engraving, obverse and reverse.
Both flintlock and percussion cap would be very odd on a break action.
I'll say it is an external hammer type cartridge gun.
This is a fantastic find! A bonus for a gun and coin enthusiast! Thanks for posting!
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Only if they used a paper cartridge and it would be unwieldy and impractical for hunting.
If they didn't, how could they pour powder into a breech and close it without it pouring out?
Whatever it is, I have saved it to my "Cool US Coins" image folder.
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Very impressive.... Professional grade engraving. Being a firearms aficionado, I would love to have seen this coin at a shop or show...Yep, would have purchased it... Cheers, RickO
How in the World would you put a monetary value on that one? Edit a question mark.
Consign it to a major auction house?
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Really cool piece, Realone !!
The gun, while nicely done, is odd.
I would have to guess that it was done for someone who liked to hunt or liked guns. Pretty sure it was a gift.
It could have been done by the giver or hired out ( most likely )
It would have to be done after the common use of break action shotguns.
Great aquisition.
Early shotguns (almost always muzzle-loaders) used black powder, paper or fiber wadding, and loose shot. After that, straight-walled brass cartridges (similar to over-sized rifle cartridges) were used beginning somewhere around the Civil War. Many of these guns used exposed hammers to impact the primer. In the late 1800s brass cases gave way to paper-wall shells which persisted to the 1960s or so.
I'm guessing 1830 thru 1870 ?
I would think pre civil war.
Coolest thing I've seen lately.
I really like it and would wager it's worth more than an unmolested example!
Wonderful piece
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Did you see if that was script in the left corner leaf
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
to clark kent, from lois lane ???
I'm with 1890-1910 or so.