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messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Picked up an 1823 O-101 Broken 3. I remember seeing this pictured among all the other date varieties in the first Red Book I got when I was 8 or 9 and thought it was really cool then. I still think it's cool.

John
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45? Nice piece, wonderful image.

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And looks CAC-worthy too, though JA will be concerned whether the mark above the left wing looks "fresh" or original - may be less obtrusive in hand.

    I'm sure you were really concerned about all that when you were 8 or 9 :)

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin! :)@messydesk
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    @Coinosaurus "the mark above the left wing looks "fresh" or original"

    Looks like it might be a clash mark. ;)

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that’s a dandy

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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. Great look. Nice one.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin and great photo!

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @morgansforever said:
    XF45? Nice piece, wonderful image.

    Thanks. It's graded VF35. The mark above the wing is a clash.

    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
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    Sean1990Sean1990 Posts: 64 ✭✭✭

    I owned this coin when it was ungraded and sold in to the collector who had it sent to our host. Really an outstanding coin!

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat die variety, and I love the subtle toning.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice old coin....Looks good for the grade.... Cheers, RickO

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice pickup

    Frank

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    mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. Love the color and overall originality!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice XF+. All the varieties of the 1823 are neat.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, John. Original. Looks like 40 to me.
    Lance.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That broken 3 was a source of embarrassment to the Mint. So the broken 3 was repaired and striking resumed with the "patched 3".

    Good job fellas.
    Lance.

    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice score

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @morgansforever said:
    XF45? Nice piece, wonderful image.

    Thanks. It's graded VF35. The mark above the wing is a clash.

    I think the mark referred to is the "X" between the N and the wing. I really like the coin!

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2019 1:28PM

    Here is an Ugly 3 I bought from the coin lieutenant years ago, and later sold, the toughest type to find...

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35?! Wow... I was thinking easily 40, and with the remaining luster in the devices, a shot at 45...

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    FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinosaurus said:
    And looks CAC-worthy too, though JA will be concerned whether the mark above the left wing looks "fresh" or original - may be less obtrusive in hand.

    I'm sure you were really concerned about all that when you were 8 or 9 :)

    That mark above the wing appears to be a clash mark. It sort of looks like a fresh scratch just because of the way the light is hitting it.

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:
    Beautiful!

    Oh ... I should have added ... it's the perfect grade for my set ... so ... if you ever want to ...

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    FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice looking coin.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    35?! Wow... I was thinking easily 40, and with the remaining luster in the devices, a shot at 45...

    While it has some characteristics of an XF coin, there's a bit too much wear on the hair curls and wing edge for XF. Had this coin been in an XF45 holder I probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger. I don't like buying coins that are graded in their respective "shot at" grades.

    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @lkenefic said:
    35?! Wow... I was thinking easily 40, and with the remaining luster in the devices, a shot at 45...

    While it has some characteristics of an XF coin, there's a bit too much wear on the hair curls and wing edge for XF. Had this coin been in an XF45 holder I probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger. I don't like buying coins that are graded in their respective "shot at" grades.

    I can see that. I was initially thinking there was more flatness in strike than wear... very nice piece, regardless.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2019 3:05PM

    The perceived wear on the hair curls and wings (and talons) is common for the die pair. Here's an AU50 on Coinfacts.
    Lance.

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    GoBustGoBust Posts: 586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lovely example of a very fun variety!

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