"...not permitted to bid on their listings." eBay...follow up question.

oih82w8

Just when I get the 10% Ebay bucks offer, and then tried to use it, I get this pop up when committing to the purchase;

I have sent the seller a message, through ebay asking if I offended them...just waiting and hoping for a positive reply.

cheezhed

You are blocked.

amwldcoin

LOL! I had a guy I knew that blocked everyone he even thought might be a dealer! I questioned him with...why would you do that, they are only going to help your coins bring more...he did wake up!

PhilLynott

it's satisfying to know that one of the people I've blocked over the years may have had this happen to them too

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coinnoob782

lol....,my banned list is long. I ban people who dont follow through on their orders and people who waste my time with ridiculous low ball offers.

jmlanzaf

@coinnoob782 said:
lol....,my banned list is long. I ban people who dont follow through on their orders and people who waste my time with ridiculous low ball offers.

ditto.

I don't mind reasonable offers. I'll just say "no thank you". But when someone comes in with a ridiculously low offer, they are just wasting my time and not serious buyers.

I also block almost anyone who returns a coin without a good reason. I'm not running an approval service.

oih82w8

I can't think of anyone I have blocked before, but...somethings are just not to be, I reckon.

ricko

That has never happened to me.... of course, I do not buy on ebay as much as I used to.....in fact, very little anymore...And I always pay immediately. Also never returned anything I purchased. Cheers, RickO

Stork

@coinnoob782 said:
lol....,my banned list is long. I ban people who dont follow through on their orders and people who waste my time with ridiculous low ball offers.

@jmlanzaf said:

@coinnoob782 said:
lol....,my banned list is long. I ban people who dont follow through on their orders and people who waste my time with ridiculous low ball offers.

ditto.

I don't mind reasonable offers. I'll just say "no thank you". But when someone comes in with a ridiculously low offer, they are just wasting my time and not serious buyers.

I also block almost anyone who returns a coin without a good reason. I'm not running an approval service.

I will occasionally throw down a very low seeming offer, but if I do I will back it up with a reason. If there is a difference in opinion on variety or value. A recent sale etc. I rarely sell, but a super low offer annoys the heck out of me. But, I did have one guy point out my idea of the value was off (I checked) which was educational and did end up in a sale. I try to extend the same so the few times I've done it I don't seem to have pissed anyone off too much.

JeffersonFrog

I have had this happen. Once. I sent the seller a message. I found out he had been waiting over 3 years to "get back at me". He told me my low Detailed Seller Ratings were the reason he went out of business, had to change his eBay ID and start all over. Some heavy fecal matter. I didn't recall him as a seller, nor the transaction, and eBay will only let me go back 3 years. To this day, I don't know what I supposedly did. I've never left a negative feedback, but will leave less than 5 stars if the service is not 5 stars.

For me, I just take my disposable income elsewhere.

lcoopie

Now we all know you were blocked

Hemispherical

Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

Cougar1978

Interesting as long receive item in good shape I give them 5 stars.

jmlanzaf

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

MasonG

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

Here's an explanation...

https://blog.sellerschoice.digital/how-to/setup-buyer-requirements-ebay

jwitten

I've blocked a ton of people. I'm sure several good have been blocked along with a ton of problem buyers. If I get a feeling about a buyer, by the way they ask a question, whatever, they aren't worth the potential trouble. I also have my account set up to automatically block people with unpaid items strikes, etc.

derryb

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

In your site preferences.
Buyer requirements (blocking buyers)
This is automatic blocking vs. manual blocking where you add a user's ID to your "blocked" list

SoFlo

So what's considered a "ridiculous" lowball offer. If someone's asking price for an item is $199.00 or "Best Offer", I'll throw $150 out there and see what happens. They usually counter offer $175.00 and it's a done deal. I've never blocked anyone for making a lowball offer, they're just trying to see what your bottom dollar is, I do the same thing.

Hemispherical

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

Here’s a pic of the option. Looks like I mistyped, instead of 7 days it is 10...?

grip

Offers not accepted, that's my best price..

U1chicago

@Mizzou said:
So what's considered a "ridiculous" lowball offer. If someone's asking price for an item is $199.00 or "Best Offer", I'll throw $150 out there and see what happens. They usually counter offer $175.00 and it's a done deal. I've never blocked anyone for making a lowball offer, they're just trying to see what your bottom dollar is, I do the same thing.

I think that 10%-25% off is a fair range. Lowball would be 50%+ off the asking price (now the price might be way out of line, but I usually won’t make an offer in those cases). And it will depend on the item. Bullion items for instance might have a lot less to no room.

MasonG

@Mizzou said:
So what's considered a "ridiculous" lowball offer.

Depends on the seller, I'm sure. If I've priced something at $200, that means comparable items have been selling for around $180-$210. Almost always, I'd accept an offer of 10% off, practically never for 25% off. An offer of $150 wouldn't get someone blocked, but it would most likely be declined without a counteroffer. "Ridiculous" to me would enter into the picture at around 50% off, and that might possibly get someone blocked.

MFeld

@Hemispherical said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

Here’s a pic of the option. Looks like I mistyped, instead of 7 days it is 10...?

If (only) that were the issue, I think it likely that the seller would have replied to the message sent by the OP. And if there was a reply, I didn’t see it posted.

2dueces

@jmlanzaf said:

@coinnoob782 said:
lol....,my banned list is long. I ban people who dont follow through on their orders and people who waste my time with ridiculous low ball offers.

ditto.

I don't mind reasonable offers. I'll just say "no thank you". But when someone comes in with a ridiculously low offer, they are just wasting my time and not serious buyers.

I also block almost anyone who returns a coin without a good reason. I'm not running an approval service.

Geez. It just a $1.00 Morgan. I thought a buck fifty was a reasonable offer? 😂

jmlanzaf

@derryb said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

In your site preferences.
Buyer requirements (blocking buyers)
This is automatic blocking vs. manual blocking where you add a user's ID to your "blocked" list

Yes, but isn't this only if they haven't paid? I've always interpreted it that way.

Hemispherical

@jmlanzaf said:

@derryb said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Hemispherical said:
Maybe a temp block based upon number of previous wins during a period of time that the seller set. Example: if 3 purchases (wins) in the past 7 days then block or something to this effect.

How do you do that?

In your site preferences.
Buyer requirements (blocking buyers)
This is automatic blocking vs. manual blocking where you add a user's ID to your "blocked" list

Yes, but isn't this only if they haven't paid? I've always interpreted it that way.

The explanation below the option explains a bit more.

IMO if someone wants to buy a whole bunch of stuff (constantly) then let them.

I guess it would be useful for someone buying items valued in the thousands many time a week/day. Either they have $$ or there might be something suspect with their funding source.

MoneyMonkey1

One of the very few tools left for sellers on EBay.

ms70

Make a different account with a different e-mail.

YQQ

I am sure you all are aware of a seller called Centsles.
I pointed out to them that a coin they had listed went way out toward stratosphere is a Chinese fake! Which 100% it was!!!
guess what???
came back as : mind your own business!......... blocked!!!
and the "funny" thing... when I reported it to Feebay it was ignored and the sale took place.
Possible legal consequences??? I have no idea....

airplanenut

@ms70 said:
Make a different account with a different e-mail.

That’s against eBay policy. It might still work, but to the letter of the law you can’t do it. If you get caught you can have all your accounts shut down.

Mgarmy

I buy a good deal of coins off eBay. Never raw. I will always Grey sheet the folks that list their coin at the pcgs/Ngc book price. If they know what they are doing we meet in the middle. That is 90 percent of the time. The other ten they are into higher than I am willing to go.

lkeigwin

@oih82w8 said:
Just when I get the 10% Ebay bucks offer, and then tried to use it, I get this pop up when committing to the purchase;

I have sent the seller a message, through ebay asking if I offended them...just waiting and hoping for a positive reply.

What's your ebay handle, @oih82w8?
Lance.

opportunity

I don't think it's necessary to block people unless they shows signs of being an outright scammer. Who cares if they lowball you, etc... they could be the bid that drives your next auction up. Maybe I'm too forgiving.

jmlanzaf

@opportunity said:
I don't think it's necessary to block people unless they shows signs of being an outright scammer. Who cares if they lowball you, etc... they could be the bid that drives your next auction up. Maybe I'm too forgiving.

Because if they return coins, you end up paying the round trip shipping plus eat the PayPal costs. That is directly money lost.

As for lowball bids, it is one thing if someone asks for 20% off which is too much for many/most coins but at least reasonable. Someone who offers below melt for Morgan dollars, for example, IS A SCAMMER. He's trying to find someone who doesn't know what the melt value of silver is, hoping to make a quick score. That person is NEVER going to push the price in an auction.

oih82w8

Yes Lance, I try to keep things simple @lkeigwin

CollectorBonEZ

I've had a dealer on Ebay block me from purchasing from them because I made a big deal about coins I purchased being shipped out late. They absolutely refuse to unblock me on Ebay. But they let me purchase through there regular website, even though I use the same name and address for my purchases and the coins I buy are the same type of coins and series. It has been over two years and over a dozen purchases since. Not sure if they are just oblivious or what, but I don't really care either way as the prices are the same.

oih82w8

Same here @CollectorBonEZ , the 10% ebay bucks would have edged out their online store price by about $20.

MasonG

@CollectorBonEZ said:
They absolutely refuse to unblock me on Ebay. But they let me purchase through there regular website, even though I use the same name and address for my purchases and the coins I buy are the same type of coins and series.

That's easy enough to understand. You can damage their rating on eBay with low stars for shipping but you can't on their website.

doubledragon

This thread scares me. I hope I'm never blocked on Ebay. Now I'm on edge.

airplanenut

@CollectorBonEZ said:
I've had a dealer on Ebay block me from purchasing from them because I made a big deal about coins I purchased being shipped out late. They absolutely refuse to unblock me on Ebay. But they let me purchase through there regular website, even though I use the same name and address for my purchases and the coins I buy are the same type of coins and series. It has been over two years and over a dozen purchases since. Not sure if they are just oblivious or what, but I don't really care either way as the prices are the same.

The buyer has a lot of power on eBay, between leaving feedback and policies that largely ensure "the buyer is always right." If a buyer makes me think that they'll cause me trouble, they'll get blocked. It's not that I don't want their money, but the amount of damage a buyer can do can cost a ton in both cash and time. I don't have my own website to sell, but if I did, I'll take money from someone I don't like if I can set the rules. But when I have to play in eBay's sandbox, I also have to do what I can to protect myself.

derryb

@airplanenut said:

@ms70 said:
Make a different account with a different e-mail.

That’s against eBay policy. It might still work, but to the letter of the law you can’t do it. If you get caught you can have all your accounts shut down.

Multiple accounts are allowed by ebay. Multiple account policy

derryb

Many sellers will block at the slightest hint of a possible problem buyer. One neg can make a lot of difference for a good seller. Why take the chance when there are so many other buyers.

oih82w8

Follow up question...if someone is "blocked" by an ebay member, does that mean "ask the seller" questions would not be received to be answered by the seller?

MasonG

@oih82w8 said:
Follow up question...if someone is "blocked" by an ebay member, does that mean "ask the seller" questions would not be received to be answered by the seller?

From eBay Buyer Requirements:

jmlanzaf

@MasonG said:

@oih82w8 said:
Follow up question...if someone is "blocked" by an ebay member, does that mean "ask the seller" questions would not be received to be answered by the seller?

From eBay Buyer Requirements:

Yes, they have to go out of their way to block your emails. I have one guy I blocked 18 or 19 years ago. Every couple years I have something he wants and he messages to ask me why he's blocked. I remind him and he promptly says, good, I remember now, you're an a$$. LOL

amwldcoin

I have a friend who was a pretty big seller on ebay with a great track record. He sold 15 or 20 better collectable Baseball cards to 1 buyer. The buyer tried to get him to give him a kickback for whatever reason and he would not. Well....he negged him on every card and ebay treated them as individual sales and ended up kicking him off ebay!

jmlanzaf

@amwldcoin said:
I have a friend who was a pretty big seller on ebay with a great track record. He sold 15 or 20 better collectable Baseball cards to 1 buyer. The buyer tried to get him to give him a kickback for whatever reason and he would not. Well....he negged him on every card and ebay treated them as individual sales and ended up kicking him off ebay!

I had a similar issue with a better outcome. I had a guy in the Philippines who loved big cheap medals. He would take advantage of my flat rate shipping and buy POUNDS of cheap bronze medals all $5 and under. He was killing me on postage.

One day, he has a $60 package go missing. After a month, he files an "Item Not Received". I promptly refund his money. He leaves me 13 negatives, one for each item in the package. I contact eBay, they tell me that it seems excessive but there's nothing I can do. I contacted the buyer and he agreed to retract them and did. But that glaring red 13 for a couple days really demonstrated how one-sided the feedback is on eBay.

airplanenut

@derryb said:

@airplanenut said:

@ms70 said:
Make a different account with a different e-mail.

That’s against eBay policy. It might still work, but to the letter of the law you can’t do it. If you get caught you can have all your accounts shut down.

Multiple accounts are allowed by ebay. Multiple account policy

Not if you’re doing it to get around a block

ifthevamzarockin

I was blocked by a seller of counterfeit coins. When he continued to sell I tried bidding from another account, it was also blocked, I checked another one, it was also blocked. I would seem ebay's system blocks all of your accounts because this seller had no way to know my other accounts.

Once someone is on my block list they are never removed for any reason.

Azurescens

The real crime here is that when I have dozens of auctions to buy, eBay bucks are nowhere to be seen, but they'll send them to me for 11 months while I'm inactive.