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Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

Coins have three sides. Edges can be an important aid to counterfeit detection. One image here is a genuine dollar and the other is a commonly seen, non-magnetic counterfeit. Unfortunately, if you have not bothered to examine the edges of your dollars, you may not be able to tell the difference even when it is as obvious as this example!

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or a strong gripped edge

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the OP, one edge is on a C/F. Which one, top or bottom?

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2019 4:14PM

    top coin, although worn, shows fairly even "lands" and grooves. Bottom coin shows very uneven "lands" and 1 even seems to be missing .Also some random blobs of metal. I think the bottom example is the CF.

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bottom

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 15,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin edge is the whole key to define a silver coin from just a clad coin. ;)

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A little worn. Hard to identify. :D

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  • Jayyk31Jayyk31 Posts: 76 ✭✭✭

    Bottom coin in the OP is the counterfeit.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bottom appears to be fake...top is worn.... Cheers, RickO

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A comment about the edges of 1921-S Morgan Dollars, included in this brief article in The Numismatist by Farran Zerbe in 1921:

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is an 1809 O.110 with the XXX edge. A little hard to make out due to wear.

    1809 bust halves have a variety of edge styles. The XXX, IIII, normal, and plain edges are known to exist.
    Lance.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This 10 year old photo is of a 2009 UHR. Thick coin, wide edge.
    Lance.

  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2019 12:31PM

    I know it’s a horrible pic but it’s actually a plain edge on a Capped Bust. As Lance said above, they are known to exist and are actually quite rare to my knowledge.

    Dave

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bust halves have many interesting edges. Considering the neat things we see, I think only the specialists check the edges.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭✭✭


    at the top is a fake 8R Lima mint pillar coin edge. At bottom is a genuine trade dollar sandwiched between 2 fakes.

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the original post, the bottom one looks fake. Was the official answer given yet?

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    Here are a few edgy items
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    1795 Reeded edge S-79 Large Cent from the cover of a 1996 Superior Auction. Brought $88,000 as I recall:
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    An "unreal" Bust Dollar:
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    A real 1798 Heraldic Bust Dollar:
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    1794 Half Cent - TWO HUNDRED visible:
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    A very low grade 1794 Large Cent - the edge often held up well even on worn out coins:
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    A 1956 50c Clipped Planchet:
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    A Gallery Mint 1793 Chain Cent copy with their mint press symbol on the edge -almost looks like a bell. Appears on some or all of their lettered issues but I don't think on the plain or reeded edge examples:
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    And the edge of a 4th edition Red Book:
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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kaz said:

    at the top is a fake 8R Lima mint pillar coin edge. At bottom is a genuine trade dollar sandwiched between 2 fakes.

    Let's see the 8 Rls please.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭✭✭


    not mine. saved the images a long time ago and unfortunately don't have any other info

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    Here is an 1809 O.110 with the XXX edge. A little hard to make out due to wear.

    1809 bust halves have a variety of edge styles. The XXX, IIII, normal, and plain edges are known to exist.
    Lance.

    Hey Lance, here are 2 1809's, an O-109a and O-109b to compare

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Toned edges: Could be a whole new field of collecting, displaying, slabbing and stickering.

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    "To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2019 2:29PM

    Thanks! Images of counterfeits are very useful to match up repeating contact marks.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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