Fresh grades from PCGS
Senator32
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Had a few interesting coins post grades today at PCGS. A few of the images have not posted yet, so will update this post with more when they do. For now enjoy the following:
1784-A Thaler D-1284 - VF35
1790-A Thaler Dav-1284 - VF35
1834-L MM 8 R - AU Details cleaned. This is the one that upsets me the most. From the same collection I found the two Thalers above in, and really a luster bomb with no hairlines I can find...or any signs of cleaning. Just feel like they screwed me a bit on this one I had it pegged at AU58.
1800-Mo FM Real - XF45 . This Real has so much flashy luster, I figured it for a choice AU with a weak strike (common on 1Rs)...pcgs gave it XF... sigh.
Let me know what you all think....and check back later for a few more.
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I can see the third one being a toned over cleaning.
I don't think the grade on the last one really reflects how nice it is. Grading always seems to be harsher on small coins. I think the same condition on an 8R would be a higher grade.
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More beautiful coins as usual! That 34 8R has some nice eye appeal!
All nice and consistent eye appeal. Congrats
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That Peru coin is nice! Too bad about details grade.
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You got a nice Pillar at Sedwick @Senator32
I may have to post it later ...kinda fell in love. Sorry if I outbid you.
@Senator32 no I was not after it, just watching the auction. But yes, quite nice!
Just got the coins back in hand, and I'm curious what you all think. The 1784 is clearly a better coin than the 1790, and yet they got the same grade. I know the envelope toning makes it look like there is more wear than there is....but VF35 seems really harsh for all the rolling luster on the 1784. Here is a video - https://imgur.com/a/fjjgyEv
Thoughts? This is the one I planned to keep, so not really worried about it...just seems more like an XF45 than a VF35 to me.
Agree. So much luster for a VF35. XF45 seems more inline. Yet, even so- I'd rather have it undergraded as anyone would agree it's so. (Is there a huge price spread between VF and XF? I'd be curious.)
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Is there a huge price spread between VF and XF? I'd be curious.
Honestly, I have no idea. Just got these in a collection I purchased and I am not very familiar with the type.
Those are very nice!
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I don't think there is a huge price difference. It would be more the principal of the matter. I agree that it's hard to imagine anything lower than XF with that luster. The coins must have had a weak strike or thin planchets.
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Some new images just posted.
1807/6-Mo in AU55 - nice color too. Finest at PCGS with two better at NGC.
1761-Mo in AU50
1835-Zs in AU53 - I call this the 'Torn Cap' variety.
1735-Mo 1/2R in VF35 - I thought it was the 1735/4 overdate.
Tell us more about the collection! Looks like some nice stuff...
My current "Box of 20"
It had the crown-sized coins in this post, plus the Cap Plastics Cob set I have posted about in the past...and then lots of junk (as all collections seem to have). Was cool to see...though wish the Peru 8R had not got cleaned
Looks like there may be a spot of active PVC on that 1761-Mo
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As good as PCGS is, don't always take their grade for the end-all. You may be right about the Peru coin but can't truly tell from pictures alone as we always like to say.
I have had some Vicky silver that has come back IMO completely wrong in grade and designation, even when I have supplied standard references and detailed information. It is their prerogative.
Well, just Love coins, period.