Anyone see a problem here?

ifthevamzarockin

A counterfeit 1916 D Dime from a new ebay member that doesn't appear to be in a PCGS holder as mentioned in title.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-D-Mercury-Dime-10C-Coin-Certified-PCGS-VG8-Rare-Key-Date-Coin/401940306194?hash=item5d95825912:g:9CgAAOSwW1BdudHZ

https://www.ebay.com/sch/lovesbr_66/m.html?_trksid=p3692

lkeigwin

It's coming down.
Lance.

jmlanzaf

Just make sure to pay via FF if you win it.

vplite

It is listed as PCGS certified, but there is not label or plastic. Isn't that illegal?

ricko

It is gone now.....and certainly if stated as holdered, and not, that is a violation. Cheers, RickO

mustangmanbob

@vplite said:
It is listed as PCGS certified, but there is not label or plastic. Isn't that illegal?

No. It may be against ebay rules, but it is not a criminal offense.

MasonG

@mustangmanbob said:

@vplite said:
It is listed as PCGS certified, but there is not label or plastic. Isn't that illegal?

No. It may be against ebay rules, but it is not a criminal offense.

Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

abcde12345

Counterfeit details with fake au55 net for being unauthentic.

segoja

Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

This is a false statement. You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front.

lkeigwin

ebay has changed their policy too often. The current rules aren't specific about photos of the slab.
Lance.

MasonG

@segoja said:
Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

This is a false statement. You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front.

Can you post a link to eBay's policy that confirms your claim? Thank you.

ShadyDave

The "D" on that 1916 dime is too low to be legitimate, it should be close to touching the vine above it ....along with other obvious surface and striking issues.

This is what the correct "d" mintmark position should look like:

johnny9434

it went poof and the d in the picture looks off

Bigcrypto

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BBN

Does a Trueviewed coin have to show the slab too?

telephoto1

@MasonG said:

@segoja said:
Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

This is a false statement. You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front.

Can you post a link to eBay's policy that confirms your claim? Thank you.

We've done eBay since 1998 and Coins & Paper Money used to have a specific listing policy section. They've totally revamped their Help section now and that has been eliminated... but I can definitively say that the policy USED to be that if a coin was in a TPG holder you had to have pictures of BOTH sides in the listing clearly showing the serial number on the label.

MasonG

@telephoto1 said:

@MasonG said:

@segoja said:
Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

This is a false statement. You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front.

Can you post a link to eBay's policy that confirms your claim? Thank you.

We've done eBay since 1998 and Coins & Paper Money used to have a specific listing policy section. They've totally revamped their Help section now and that has been eliminated... but I can definitively say that the policy USED to be that if a coin was in a TPG holder you had to have pictures of BOTH sides in the listing clearly showing the serial number on the label.

Yes, there's no doubt about that. This claim was posted above:

"You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front."

Although true in the past, I do not believe this to be so today and was asking for a link to eBay's policy that confirms the claim is accurate.

coinpalice

e bay member since Oct. 30th, 2019. brand new to e bay and already had a listing taken down. good start, e bay probably vaporized his old account for the same reasons

telephoto1

@MasonG said:

@telephoto1 said:

@MasonG said:

@segoja said:
Not commenting on the listing above, but in general- it's not against eBay rules to list a PCGS certified coin without showing the label.

This is a false statement. You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front.

Can you post a link to eBay's policy that confirms your claim? Thank you.

We've done eBay since 1998 and Coins & Paper Money used to have a specific listing policy section. They've totally revamped their Help section now and that has been eliminated... but I can definitively say that the policy USED to be that if a coin was in a TPG holder you had to have pictures of BOTH sides in the listing clearly showing the serial number on the label.

Yes, there's no doubt about that. This claim was posted above:

"You don't always have to show the back of the slab, but you must show the front."

Although true in the past, I do not believe this to be so today and was asking for a link to eBay's policy that confirms the claim is accurate.

This was a matter of curiosity to me so I decided to call eBay directly. That section of their policy apparently no longer exists ever since they "improved" their website's help sections. They said that there may be future policy updates to correct missing policy points. I was advised that sellers should continue imaging both sides of the coin and slab. Frankly I don't know why someone wouldn't want to do that anyway. I don't buy based on one half of the coin and don't expect my customers to either.

leothelyon

Here's another. Guy's pairing a 1970's reverse with a 68D.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-D-Fullsteps-Nickel/182683666132?hash=item2a88cb86d4:g:1uQAAOSwExZZdbtp

MasonG

There may be future policy updates to correct missing policy points? Good to know, I guess. I wonder what other policy points are missing, that sellers are expected to follow. I also wonder what the punishment is, for not following unpublished rules. Double-secret probation, maybe?

telephoto1

@MasonG said:
There may be future policy updates to correct missing policy points? Good to know, I guess. I wonder what other policy points are missing, that sellers are expected to follow. I also wonder what the punishment is, for not following unpublished rules. Double-secret probation, maybe?

Ha!
Welcome to the new and improved eBay.

MasonG

On the plus side, eliminating policy points from the website does make for a much quicker read. So there's that.