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Ejection doubling or something else?

FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

Mainly the L and I in liberty. Some shows in the motto. Click on the picture twice to enlarge.
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Thanks.
Ken

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see strike doubling. One indicator other than the flat stair step look is that the lettering is thinner without taking the doubling into account. On a doubled die the lettering would be thicker than normal, if that makes sense.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2019 5:52AM

    Machine doubling. Looking at the L in LIBERTY, it looks smashed. Here's a diagram by Charles Daughtrey that I saved that illustrates the difference between machine doubling and a doubled die (referred to on the diagram as hub doublign) nicely. Conventiently, it also uses an L as its example.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, ejection or mechanical doubling.

    Very common on Mercs, especially in the
    30's and 40's, although it occurs on earlier
    years also.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    Machine doubling. Looking at the L in LIBERTY, it looks smashed. Here's a diagram by Charles Daughtrey that I saved that illustrates the difference between machine doubling and a doubled die (referred to on the diagram as hub doublign) nicely. Conventiently, it also uses an L as its example.

    Borrowing the image and along with CONECA’s PDF on DD vs MD should be great examples for future questions. Thanks @messydesk.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with machine doubling and the graphic is great for new people to copy and save for reference. Cheers, RickO

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Borrowing the image and along with CONECA’s PDF on DD vs MD should be great examples for future questions. Thanks @messydesk.

    I assume you're referring to JT Stanton's monograph on the subject. I include that as one of the appendices in the class notes for the Morgan dollar class I teach at ANA Summer Seminar.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Borrowing the image and along with CONECA’s PDF on DD vs MD should be great examples for future questions. Thanks @messydesk.

    I assume you're referring to JT Stanton's monograph on the subject. I include that as one of the appendices in the class notes for the Morgan dollar class I teach at ANA Summer Seminar.

    Yes. Comes in very handy with all the “Is this a DD” questions in the QA forum (and here, too.)

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:

    @messydesk said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Borrowing the image and along with CONECA’s PDF on DD vs MD should be great examples for future questions. Thanks @messydesk.

    I assume you're referring to JT Stanton's monograph on the subject. I include that as one of the appendices in the class notes for the Morgan dollar class I teach at ANA Summer Seminar.

    Yes. Comes in very handy with all the “Is this a DD” questions in the QA forum (and here, too.)

    Perhaps I'll post the diagram and link to JT's article to the Q&A Forum (I rarely go there) and see if I can get it pinned.

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