I had a 63 that looked that good in an OGH. I kick myself every day for selling it. Due to the mark or line, in the left facing obverse; I'll say 63. It's much too nice to go below that.
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@MFeld said:
What's the point of a guess the grade thread if you have different pictures, but you exclude one which shows a significant problem?
That was the point of this thread, to show how misleading pictures can be, plus an interesting reason which I agree with why they came up with the grade.
Let this be a lessen for those that are buying coins online from pictures. Make sure there is a return policy, especially on raw coins. Had this been raw and those pics were used for selling (like on ebay), it would have fooled an awful lot of people.
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@Bigbuck1975 said:
Shouldn’t this be holdered as Unc details cleaned? Directional hairlines from an old wipe or what do you think?
I honestly don't believe it to be cleaned, I believe it was mishandled, perhaps was under a book and slid or something to that effect. The reverse has no issues, 64 all day...
@MFeld said:
What's the point of a guess the grade thread if you have different pictures, but you exclude one which shows a significant problem?
I'm on the fence. You are 100% correct. However, @AUandAG made a point expressed by the the OP also. Images can be manipulated - BUYER beware. Trick questions are a great way of teaching. I use them all the time in class...like sticking a genuine coin in as a counterfeit and and asking students to tell why it is a fake. Putting fakes into a grading class is fun too. C/F's can be graded even if you think the piece is genuine.
@Bigbuck1975 said:
Shouldn’t this be holdered as Unc details cleaned? Directional hairlines from an old wipe or what do you think?
I honestly don't believe it to be cleaned, I believe it was mishandled, perhaps was under a book and slid or something to that effect. The reverse has no issues, 64 all day...
I agree with the grade upon seeing the 'patch of horror'. I find it all in all an attractive piece that I would happily buy as a 61.
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I bet they netted it to MS60 for the scratch in front of liberty’s forehead
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I had a 63 that looked that good in an OGH. I kick myself every day for selling it. Due to the mark or line, in the left facing obverse; I'll say 63. It's much too nice to go below that.
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64 minus scratch and rub in lower left front = 62
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What I see is a really nice 62
63 from 1st pic
65 from 2nd
So.....63
Genuine To many scratches in fields.... or are they on the slab???
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Thanks for posting . Look forward to the reveal.
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A little on the coin and the holder.
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A hint... It is MS, but, nobody has guessed it yet.
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Looks nice . 63
65 without mark.
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Interesting coin....I would say MS65.....I think the marks mentioned above are accentuated by the light/photography. Cheers, RickO
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Very educational. Thx.
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What's the point of a guess the grade thread if you have different pictures, but you exclude one which shows a significant problem?
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That was the point of this thread, to show how misleading pictures can be, plus an interesting reason which I agree with why they came up with the grade.
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My first thought was, why on earth is this a 61!? Then twirling the slab around I saw it... It makes sense to me.
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In hand, looks 63 all day long:
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Shouldn’t this be holdered as Unc details cleaned? Directional hairlines from an old wipe or what do you think?
Let this be a lessen for those that are buying coins online from pictures. Make sure there is a return policy, especially on raw coins. Had this been raw and those pics were used for selling (like on ebay), it would have fooled an awful lot of people.
bob
I honestly don't believe it to be cleaned, I believe it was mishandled, perhaps was under a book and slid or something to that effect. The reverse has no issues, 64 all day...
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I'm on the fence. You are 100% correct. However, @AUandAG made a point expressed by the the OP also. Images can be manipulated - BUYER beware. Trick questions are a great way of teaching. I use them all the time in class...like sticking a genuine coin in as a counterfeit and and asking students to tell why it is a fake. Putting fakes into a grading class is fun too. C/F's can be graded even if you think the piece is genuine.
I have seen a lot less appealing morgans that have graded higher. I can see that coin grading 62-63 on a good day.
I agree with the grade upon seeing the 'patch of horror'. I find it all in all an attractive piece that I would happily buy as a 61.
@batumi indeed for a 61 it has eye appeal.
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I disagree with the grade. A problem is a problem.