My small collection of 1803 Kettle Turban head half and quarter eagles **UPDATE 1803 silvered Graded

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I think I have all of the varieties now.
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**1803 TKN $5 J-C1803-3 KETTLE & SONS GAMING TOKEN, BIRMINGHAM, ENG. MS63 ** BRASS

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1803 TKN $5 J-C1803-3 KETTLE & SONS GAMING TOKEN, BIRMINGHAM, ENG. GILT

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1803 Tkn $2.5 J-C1803-1 Kettle & Sons Gaming Token, Birmingham, Eng. NGC. AUS58
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1803 Tkn $2.5 J-C1803-2 Kettle & Sons Gaming Token, Birmingham, Eng. SILVERED BRASS
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This is the picture of the slab but hoping for the other images I payed for to come soon.
I'm over the moon happy NGC saw it as such!
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ricko

Congratulations... nice group of tokens. Cheers, RickO

crazyhounddog

Cool tokens for sure👌🏻😎

NumisOxide

Very interesting! Is the first one struck in copper?

CaptHenway

Very Nice!

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Thanks everyone for your nice comments. I guess I posted this without much info on these,
so I included a page I found online at TAMS for reference.
@coinjp the first one is brass that has toned really nicely.
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The hardest one I found to locate was the silvered brass.

Hemispherical

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Congrats in the completion!

Timbuk3

Congratulations !!!

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As long as I gave a link to this page explaining who Kettle & Sons are I thought to
include this one. Also quite rare in grades above xf. This link explains it
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80724.html
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MWallace

Great set! My kind of stuff. Thanks for showing.

RichieURich

Very cool! Thanks for posting them!

Meltdown

Super cool. I'd like just one please...

Namvet69

A beautiful set. What period of time did it take? Thanks. Peace Roy

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@Namvet69 said:
A beautiful set. What period of time did it take? Thanks. Peace Roy

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Thanks. It took around 7-8 years. When I first was looking prices were astronomical. Then as most do they dropped in price. I was able to get most within a few years. Now I’m trying to upgrade them and prices are rising, making it difficult to purchase again

Hydrant

Interesting project. Congratulations on completing it.

jesbroken

Outstanding collection. Thank you for the pics and the info. Interesting to say the least.
Jim

GoBust

Very cool. You've found some wonderful examples! I collect them as well oddly as part of my pre-1840 pattern set.They interestingly are listed in the Judd pattern book in the section C. Non-mint patterns. Of course, they're not patterns at all. Its also felt that Judd-27 and Judd-27a might actually not exist and if fact be altered kettle tokens ( uspatterns.com website). So for the 1803 pieces, what exactly do you consider a complete set? Quarter eagle and half eagle in brass and copper?

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@GoBust said:
Very cool. You've found some wonderful examples! I collect them as well oddly as part of my pre-1840 pattern set.They interestingly are listed in the Judd pattern book in the section C. Non-mint patterns. Of course, they're not patterns at all. Its also felt that Judd-27 and Judd-27a might actually not exist and if fact be altered kettle tokens ( uspatterns.com website). So for the 1803 pieces, what exactly do you consider a complete set? Quarter eagle and half eagle in brass and copper?

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All true as you stated above and more and more information is just surfacing as not all that much was known about Kettle.
It appears that he has done many other tokens such as the C. Wolfe, Clark & Spies Early Tokens and more. I have spent money purchasing L. B. Fauver books and tokens from a seller that purchased a ton of his tokens.
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As far as collecting these for a set I thought it would be relatively simple, or more difficult to find higher grade examples.
The $2.5 Quarter Eagle in Brass and some are gold gilt. A very rare one is a quarter eagle silvered. PCGS has one graded
and they refer to it a a "dime".....not sure why but I can guess. Then you have the $5 Half Eagle in brass and gilt.
So, total of 5 would be. set. Or at least I thought so.
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I have sent my silvered Quarter Eagle and still waiting to her back from NGC
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Looking through Fauver's books it appears there are quite a few varieties. One of them being one without the KETTLE
on the obverse. I too thought it was just filled off but there are varieties that do not have the KETTLE signature and he gives
the pick up points as to how many stars and a weak struck reverse.
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So it seams that many that are around or have been graded in fact are much rarer pieces. I need to find out somewhere the
possibility of scanning these varieties and posting them here. It is in his book EXONUMIA SYMBOLISM & CLASSIFICATION - L.B. FAUVER - 350 PGS But it appears the prices have gone way up!
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Edited to add......can you post your Kettle tokens here. I would just love to see them

Baley

Crypto

What a great set and clear focus. What collecting is all about well done and good read too

kaz

NIcely done, Stef. thanks for the education and links.

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UPDATE
I'm very happy....today I received my grade for the 1803 silvered quarter eagle, I included the slab pics for now and will get
better images when everything comes back home.