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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @OriginalDan said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Double wow

    Bruce you might appreciate the Eliasberg coin was graded EF40 in that sale, but now resides in a P58 CAC holder. Things were....different, then.

    A perfect illustration of my point

    Not that there hasn't been some gradeflation over the years, but it's worth noting that the Eliasberg US collection was sold raw. The EF40 grade in the catalog was only the cataloger's opinion, and probably a conservative one even back then. (I'd probably voice that more strongly if I knew which coin we were talking about.)

    Andy - I edited my post to make it clearer to what I was referring. Point being that Currin can’t compare old time raw estimated grades to modern certified grades to see if Hansen has a ‘winner’. I asserted that many of his winners were likely not or were even ‘losers’. Heck, some are probably even the same coin...despite being a significant span apart in shown grade.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @OriginalDan said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Double wow

    Bruce you might appreciate the Eliasberg coin was graded EF40 in that sale, but now resides in a P58 CAC holder. Things were....different, then.

    A perfect illustration of my point

    Not that there hasn't been some gradeflation over the years, but it's worth noting that the Eliasberg US collection was sold raw. The EF40 grade in the catalog was only the cataloger's opinion, and probably a conservative one even back then. (I'd probably voice that more strongly if I knew which coin we were talking about.)

    Andy - I edited my post to make it clearer to what I was referring. Point being that Currin can’t compare old time raw estimated grades to modern certified grades to see if Hansen has a ‘winner’. I asserted that many of his winners were likely not or were even ‘losers’. Heck, some are probably even the same coin...despite being a significant span apart in shown grade.

    Gotcha. FWIW, that looks like a coin that I would have graded "Choice 50" back then and "Choice 55" today. At 58 it may be a stretch, but who cares? For a coin of such rarity, you can't wait for the perfect coin to get the perfect grade. You just buy the right coin when it becomes available, however it's graded, as long as the price makes sense.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • OGDanOGDan Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Gotcha. FWIW, that looks like a coin that I would have graded "Choice 50" back then and "Choice 55" today. At 58 it may be a stretch, but who cares? For a coin of such rarity, you can't wait for the perfect coin to get the perfect grade. You just buy the right coin when it becomes available, however it's graded, as long as the price makes sense.

    Spot on, Andy.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No difference here than the way 1804 Dollars are graded IMHO.

    @MrEureka said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @OriginalDan said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Double wow

    Bruce you might appreciate the Eliasberg coin was graded EF40 in that sale, but now resides in a P58 CAC holder. Things were....different, then.

    A perfect illustration of my point

    Not that there hasn't been some gradeflation over the years, but it's worth noting that the Eliasberg US collection was sold raw. The EF40 grade in the catalog was only the cataloger's opinion, and probably a conservative one even back then. (I'd probably voice that more strongly if I knew which coin we were talking about.)

    Andy - I edited my post to make it clearer to what I was referring. Point being that Currin can’t compare old time raw estimated grades to modern certified grades to see if Hansen has a ‘winner’. I asserted that many of his winners were likely not or were even ‘losers’. Heck, some are probably even the same coin...despite being a significant span apart in shown grade.

    Gotcha. FWIW, that looks like a coin that I would have graded "Choice 50" back then and "Choice 55" today. At 58 it may be a stretch, but who cares? For a coin of such rarity, you can't wait for the perfect coin to get the perfect grade. You just buy the right coin when it becomes available, however it's graded, as long as the price makes sense.

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