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1927 S Peace Dollar


I would really appreciate others opinions as to the grade of this coin in the pictures. It is a 1927 S Peace Dollar, thanks a lot in advance!

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have to say 62, but I like it.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63, I don't see anything too offensive about it.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019 11:51AM

    61/62 That looks like a pretty good ding right on the cheek and the chatter on the neck.

    But what are those spots on the rim? Is that photo trimmed from a coin in a holder or is that coin removed from a bezel? It almost looks like solder residue.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    61/62 That looks like a pretty good ding right on the cheek and the chatter on the neck.

    But what are those spots on the rim? Is that photo trimmed from a coin in a holder or is that coin removed from a bezel? It almost looks like solder residue.

    Looks like an old rattler to me.

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  • Hi and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. This coin yes, is in a holder, but not a first tier grading service holder or even a second tier grading service holder. To me it appears to be a 63 but yes it could be a 61/62 as well, that is why I am appreciating others' opinions here to try and pin it down more accurately.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks 63 to me.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Accugrade?

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am going 62. How is a coin with that cheek damage going to go down as "choice BU" - which is what MS63 is supposed to be.
    Coin looks dipped and partially retoned.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    Details because of the facial marks or something else?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    Details because of the facial marks or something else?

    Sorry for not having specified - for the facial marks.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those rim marks look very much like the remains of an old mount, and if so this coin would likely get a details grade from one of the top 3 services imo.

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  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    It's a large photo so I bet it looks much better in hand. Probably a pcgs rattler or a blanchard holder. I'm guessing 63 possibly a 64 at max based on what i've seen in those two type holders.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gtstang said:

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    It's a large photo so I bet it looks much better in hand. Probably a pcgs rattler or a blanchard holder. I'm guessing 63 possibly a 64 at max based on what i've seen in those two type holders.

    The OP already posted “... This coin yes, is in a holder, but not a first tier grading service holder or even a second tier grading service holder...”

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @gtstang said:

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    It's a large photo so I bet it looks much better in hand. Probably a pcgs rattler or a blanchard holder. I'm guessing 63 possibly a 64 at max based on what i've seen in those two type holders.

    The OP already posted “... This coin yes, is in a holder, but not a first tier grading service holder or even a second tier grading service holder...”

    oops, the plastic in the photo holding the coin looks like a Blanchard holder since we now know it's def not pcgs.

  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭✭

    I think 62

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gtstang said:

    @MFeld said:

    @gtstang said:

    @MFeld said:
    I can’t get past MS62, due to the facial marks. And a details-grade crossed my mind.

    It's a large photo so I bet it looks much better in hand. Probably a pcgs rattler or a blanchard holder. I'm guessing 63 possibly a 64 at max based on what i've seen in those two type holders.

    The OP already posted “... This coin yes, is in a holder, but not a first tier grading service holder or even a second tier grading service holder...”

    oops, the plastic in the photo holding the coin looks like a Blanchard holder since we now know it's def not pcgs.

    That would have been my third guess.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nets out to around 60 imo.

    Bad place for such unsightly marks

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • I'm sorry I should have typed this before, yes the coin is in a Blanchard holder and graded as an MS63 however I originally just wanted to treat the coin as raw as being raw with no grade here on the post, as I know Blanchard is not even counted in proper grading services circles. Thanks a lot so far for sharing everyone, much appreciated.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61 due to facial marks and, based on the photos, very bland luster.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61/2

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not see it going above a 62.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would grade that Peace as a 62... the rim marks are reminiscent of being in a belt buckle for a while...I have seen several of those.... Cheers, RickO

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019 6:36AM

    Well, I grade it around $100. I’d like to see it in hand as I’m not so sure it doesn’t also have a bit of rub..... taking it to AU slider country. If it is MS, I see it as a 61, but one that has the scarlet letter in the middle of her face.

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Well, I grade it around $100. I’d like to see it in hand as I’m not so sure it doesn’t also have a bit of rub..... taking it to AU slider country. If it is MS, I see it as a 61, but one that has the scarlet letter in the middle of her face.

    That's a good way to grade...... mine was around a hundred bucks for PCGS AU 55.

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears that the majority don't think the rim marks would prevent this coin from straight-grading. I'd be interested to understand better what's behind that thinking. Does the fact that the damage is limited to the rims enter into the equation? Do the rim marks cause you to net down the grade?

    My first thought was PMD = Details but people with more experience than me have gone the other way.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aotearoa said:
    It appears that the majority don't think the rim marks would prevent this coin from straight-grading. I'd be interested to understand better what's behind that thinking. Does the fact that the damage is limited to the rims enter into the equation? Do the rim marks cause you to net down the grade?

    My first thought was PMD = Details but people with more experience than me have gone the other way.

    The rim marks you see are the tabs from the plastic holder.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:

    @Aotearoa said:
    It appears that the majority don't think the rim marks would prevent this coin from straight-grading. I'd be interested to understand better what's behind that thinking. Does the fact that the damage is limited to the rims enter into the equation? Do the rim marks cause you to net down the grade?

    My first thought was PMD = Details but people with more experience than me have gone the other way.

    The rim marks you see are the tabs from the plastic holder.

    Aha. Thanks.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019 1:43PM

    @fiftysevener said:

    @BryceM said:
    Well, I grade it around $100. I’d like to see it in hand as I’m not so sure it doesn’t also have a bit of rub..... taking it to AU slider country. If it is MS, I see it as a 61, but one that has the scarlet letter in the middle of her face.

    That's a good way to grade...... mine was around a hundred bucks for PCGS AU 55.

    Completely agree... my first impression was AU 55 so I was very surprised to see all of the mint state grades proffered.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not seeing wear; cheek and fields seem to have ample luster. Seeing typical weak strike and heavy/unfortunate marks that makes S mint peace dollars so challenging in high grade.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Peace dollars seem difficult to grade to me. I have a few....like them a lot. Looks like a 62 to my eyes. However, the obverse has some distracting areas. Most notably the “P” in Peace. Some other pits as well. .

  • drfishdrfish Posts: 948 ✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of the grade - slider or very low ms - I would pass due to the glaring marks on the Liberty’s face

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 3, 2019 6:25PM

    62 and nice for the grade of a much better date. Some negative Nelly’s on here

    If in a rattler it is worth several hundred dollars

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 62

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