Calif. governor signs bill allowing college athletes to get paid
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Whadda ya think, should they get paid???
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a first-in-the-nation bill Monday that clears the way for college players to be paid from endorsement deals."
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anything that can be done to destroy college football is fine with me,
if we are talking about NCAA women's volleyball then I prefer the status quo
Endorsements yes, payroll no
Best athletes are dirt poor. They need the green stuff. They will go where they can get it now.
The state(s) that allow it will be cranking out perennial championships.
Permitting endorsements is a good first start. Allowing (but not forcing) schools to pay the athletes is the next logical move.
I didn’t even think about this. They will obviously want to go to California to play now and who can blame them?
UCLA can use the help.
USC too probably? I don’t follow College
Just thinking about this off the cuff, I don't see this changing things all that much, if hardly at all.
Directly paying the kids would change things.
As far as endorsements. What company is going to pay big money or any money to college kids for endorsements? I mean endorsement money is made from name recognition, and virtually all college kids have no name recognition to the general public.
Yes, it will benefit the "superstar" college athletes in football or basketball but that's about it. However those kids are going to make big money off pro sports and endorsements when then graduate anyway, so it really won't affect them either in the long run.
Maybe I'll change my mind on this as more information is gathered?
It is more likely the NCAA will consider those making endorsement money are professionals and be excluded from Championship games than California teams winning Championships. Then it will go to the courts.
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Ralph
ummmm have you seen that companies are paying a half million for a stupid commercial that everyone ignores unless it happens to be during a superbowl?
Sort of how the world works. The basketball and football stars have been carrying the other programs for decades. Let them cash in. Kneeling Nike will certainly be at their door. Maybe they will create a stipend for the no name athletes as well. It will be interesting to see how things shake out.
You're of course right. But the bottom line is why pay some college kid endorsement money when they are already giving so many millions of endorsement money to the pro players.
I'm acknowledging that the "superstars" of college football and basketball may, if not will, get some nice money here, but I just don't see it affecting any of the other kids all that much.
A few college superstars may and perhaps will move to California to grab that money, but I doubt if there will be some sort of college player mass exodus from the other 49 states into California.
I didn't read the bill. However there must be some legal or logical reason why California didn't enact pay for college athletes.
California is such a rogue state these days with things we won't discuss here. But for them not to initiate colleges paying athletes, there must be a good reason.
Perhaps the governor and legislature figured doing that would raise the cost of tuition for all the other students which would certainly hiss off those students and their parents. I mean let's tell it like it is - athletes are already financially pampered with scholarships, and now paying them and raising tuition may not sit very well with the general voting public.
Any endorsement money is already wasted .
How dumb am I to begin with if I allow some brain dead celebrity to choose my next pair of shoes ?
Lets pass a law outlawing endorsements
I didn't read the bill either. Have wrestled with the pay to play issue for some time and my conclusion is that it should be permitted but not required. Plenty of athletes are worth no more than the scholarship. With Title 9 and equality issues in California, it would be a nightmare to legislate a workable program.
This reminds me of a ESPN 30 for 30 show I watched recently about the SMU Mustangs scandal. A book was written about it also.
I see it as nothing but trouble and could get real ugly quick!
there is no college football program that isn't corrupt its a requirement to even have a team.
I am torn on this one. I agree that the colleges, who are making a lot money from these athletes, should share more of it than they do. At the same time I am concerned about the roll of big money in the game, and how it could influence the outcome of games.
It is amazing that California, which is one of the most socialist states in the country, would pass this legislation. Perhaps they are looking forward to the tax revenues that will come of it,
It is ugly now. At least move the payoffs out of the shadows.
It was better back in the 60's when there was 4 or 5 Bowl games. Now there must be 25 or 30 Bowls!
Last time I counted it was 44 bowls.
Yep.
Just need he Rose, Orange, and Sugar Bowl.
Good grief! That means there has to be 88 teams with winning records. Or can you play in a bowl with a losing record?
Don't leave out the Cotton Bowl.
Last I checked, the rule was that a team needed 6 wins, so plenty or 6-6 records fill up the dreck bowl. Recal seeing a 6-7 team qualify at least once.
There are so many Bowl Games because it equals huge money. If you put on a jersey for a college team your education should be covered, you want to talk about scandalous behavior then talk about recruiting. Bottom line if these kids can get endorsements then they should feel free to do so, I don’t want them on a payroll though. Payroll will instantly imitate the same nonsense that goes off in the NFL with guys going for the best offer, holdouts, agents ect..
Back in the 1960s, it seemed like Texas was always inventing a “Let’s have a bowl for Texas bowl,” so that a Texas team would have a place play during the holidays.
I seem to remember a couple teams with 5 and 4 records that were playing a “let’s create a bowl for somebody” bowl game.
I prefer "Remember the Alamo Bowl", to the "Tostito Bowl".
California didn't dictate pay for play because they didn't want to have sort out how that would work.
Multiple other states are proposing the same legislation. Within a year or two, all 50 will pass similar. California won't be allowed to win recruits uncontested.
All this does is eliminate the under the table stuff already occurring. Every guy on the football and basketball teams will get something. And then random people on other teams.
Yea, and gee I always thought that colleges were there first to provide an education, and everything else was secondary. Students were supposed to be focused on learning called academics, and becoming better citizens to work and prosper in our society. I guess that's another great foundation of our country going out the window.
In my opinion this will be particularly harmful to inner city kids. Instead of dreaming about a career in a good job or starting a business, they'll be dreaming about an endorsement deal from Nike.
Oh well, what do I know? Those school administrators and politicians are a lot smarter than me. So we'll just have to trust them, and assume that they're doing the best thing for the kids, right?
That’s some really good points Steve. But if these inner city kids or any kid really, I mean I grew up in a poor household in a very rich area so I know a lot of these kids that are hurting don’t necessarily have to be inner city kids as you know I’m sure. But your right it might switch their mindset
seriously?
College is about convincing idiots to apply for loans that they will have following around forever. The degrees are mostly useless.
If colleges were about learning they would get rid of sports entirely and sororities and fraternities and all the other bull$hit. A degree from a low cost state school would be the same everywhere and the best way to go
It's just that something tells me that this is all more about companies such as Nike, and also lining the pockets of various school administrators and politicians than it is about the kids.
On the surface it seems like a good thing. But underneath that surface may lie a number of unforeseen pitfalls. It just has a bit of a smell of exploitation in my view.
Oh well, in any event we shall see how it all plays out.
It's crazy all the bowls they have these days. The names of the bowls are getting crazy also. What's next, the Viagra bowl?
Part of an education is learning how to socialize and network. That’s part of becoming successful. I don’t have a problem with the sports programs. I am not a fan of fraternities because I got blackballed most of the time, but a social life is important as a part of the college experience.
I am with you with respect to the student loan scam. The government has given the colleges too much “free money” which let the higher education institutions raise tuitions to ridiculous levels. That has to be reformed.
As for useless majors, yes, there are too many of them. I took a lot of free elective courses in subjects like psychology, foreign affairs and theater, but my courses for work were accounting business administration and economics. If I could have had a double major in accounting and economics, I would have done it, the school won’t let me. Instead I took all of the courses for an economics major, but didn’t get the degree. So what? I still got the knowledge.
This law does nothing to change that. All it does is give athletes the same rights that music students already have.
Your dream bubble popped when coaches began signing 7 and now 8 figure contacts.
Yea, the coaches may be the smartest of them all. LOL
Unions.
Is it illegal for schools to pay students now, or do schools just not do it because they will lose NCAA eligibility? Related question: can California legally require the NCAA to accept any particular school as a member? I'm betting the vast majority of student-atheletes aren't willing to go to schools that have no chance of playing out-of-state schools or for championships. After all, there is no great flow of high school graduates to the CFL or any of the myriad foreign basketball leagues waiting to age in to the NBA or NFL drafts.
It's not illegal for schools to pay athletes now, no. They don't because of the NCAA.
No, California cannot tell the NCAA to accept a school as a member.