My opinion, based only upon the supplied images, is that the lines going through the eagle's mid-section and tail are both deep scratches. However, I might believe that if someone looked at it very briefly (as in when a coin gets graded) that they might initially think they are die cracks. Regardless, I would likely pass on such a coin because I think the extent of injury would place it into the damaged category.
Hi gstang, looks like bad scratches and damage. Check out a couple wire strike thrus on Heritage to see some differences. One big one is that a wire strike through is continuous and has no gaps.
The elevation on both sides of the “valley” caused by a struck through object should be the same since the pressure would be applied uniformally on the planchet.
A scratch might how a higher elevation (moved metal) on one side of the “valley.”
Something was dragged across or the coin was dragged across something. A staple jumped into my thoughts.
Here's a much better pic. There are at least four different areas that look like a large scratch. I doubt it was from a staple. It seems odd that these areas could be missed while being graded which is why I was thinking debris on the die and not scratches.
@ricko said:
Scratches... PMD..... just not serious enough to get 'Damaged details'....Cheers, RickO
This coin has been assigned a "value" (MS-62) similar to the way copper collectors "net" grade coins. You can like it or not. I'm silent on this practice by TPGS.
As of now, there are no "standards" for scratches, spots, scrapes, rim dings, etc. It is a personal judgment of how much any PMD affects a coin. Eventually, I know there will be some guidelines folks can use.
@MasonG said:
If a coin such as this was found in the wrong company's holder with a numeric grade, well- it's easy to guess how it would be received here.
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Need better close up photos but from here it looks like a scratch.
It is straight graded at ms62 also
Your coin is badly scratched. Now OP, see if you can give the reasons both of us determined the marks are scratches.
My opinion, based only upon the supplied images, is that the lines going through the eagle's mid-section and tail are both deep scratches. However, I might believe that if someone looked at it very briefly (as in when a coin gets graded) that they might initially think they are die cracks. Regardless, I would likely pass on such a coin because I think the extent of injury would place it into the damaged category.
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My thinking was debris, possibly wire because of multiple areas of "damage". Look at the eagles head. That looks like a strike through there.
Scratch for sure, sorry
Hi gstang, looks like bad scratches and damage. Check out a couple wire strike thrus on Heritage to see some differences. One big one is that a wire strike through is continuous and has no gaps.
The elevation on both sides of the “valley” caused by a struck through object should be the same since the pressure would be applied uniformally on the planchet.
A scratch might how a higher elevation (moved metal) on one side of the “valley.”
Something was dragged across or the coin was dragged across something. A staple jumped into my thoughts.
IMO
Too big for a staple. Also, check out the pushed-up top end of the long scratch when the image is magnified.
Moved metal.
Here's a much better pic. There are at least four different areas that look like a large scratch. I doubt it was from a staple. It seems odd that these areas could be missed while being graded which is why I was thinking debris on the die and not scratches.
Who graded it?
It's PCGS MS62
Scratches... PMD..... just not serious enough to get 'Damaged details'....Cheers, RickO
Add another vote for scratches. As @Hemispherical said, they appears to be some raised metal which would not occur with a strike through.
We need a new category for posting.
Scratches, dings, chunks, and Hoped-for Errors.
This coin has been assigned a "value" (MS-62) similar to the way copper collectors "net" grade coins. You can like it or not. I'm silent on this practice by TPGS.
As of now, there are no "standards" for scratches, spots, scrapes, rim dings, etc. It is a personal judgment of how much any PMD affects a coin. Eventually, I know there will be some guidelines folks can use.
If a coin such as this was found in the wrong company's holder with a numeric grade, well- it's easy to guess how it would be received here.
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