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PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

Just bought this $1901-s $5 (ms65) to upgrade my 20th century gold type set. Should arrive via usps tomorrow. (After which I will post the coin it is replacing in the BST, a 1902-s 64+).

Nice clean obverse attracted me to this one. The reverse has a couple interesting features. Im still learning - can someone help me understand what I'm looking at?

1) Is the "cracking" (esp. Around the "d St" of United States) a die break? It makes the coin seem a little more authentic to me. How do others feel about this type of feature?

2) Does the S mint mark look funny to anyone else? Coinfacts lists s/s and o/s varieties. Could this be one of those?

3) Is that red paint on the rim next to the first A in America? Is this something others have seen, or unique to this specific coin? Doesnt look like a copper spot to me.

I really like the trueview, and expect the coin will look great in hand as well. The one it is replacing has a few more marks on it, a little more scruffy. I think this is a nice upgrade for my set. Appreciate others' insight!

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    She is a beauty and I like it!!!

    Congrats on a nice pickup.

    Donato

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice clean type coin with a cool die crack. Too lazy to study the mm and others with more knowledge than I have can address that. Not sure about the red spot. Like the coin though.

  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭

    Very pretty coin and I really like the color. To me, the spot looks like a copper spot or some type of oxidation. Adds to the look and character.

    The MM sure looks like an RPM. CONECA lists a couple with a similar look, but with the limited pics it is tough to make any confirmation.

    The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
  • FullHornFullHorn Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks great! I am always looking at ms 62's or 63 gold. It is a world of difference with that 65.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Atza purdy thang! B)

    The cracking doesn't convince me it's authentic as much as the PCGS Trueview does though. ;)

    Seriously that should be a keeper in any book. :)

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking coin! The mint mark is definitely punched over something. It could be a simple RPM, or it could be punched over an S of a different size, as there were multiple sizes of mint malls in use then.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a RPM to me.
    Although in gold these add little or no value due to the high value of the coin itself.
    The red spots are copper spots.
    Some collectors like them...I don't particularly care for them but yours are minor and not distracting.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice gold coin.... interesting die cracks.... tiny copper spots, but not a distraction-at this point... Cheers, RickO

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I am pretty happy to snag this one. It definitely has character. I built my type set quickly with whatever coins i could find in my budget. Now im looking at the long game to improve it as something good shows up. Ive got ebay searches saved for every coin and have looked at hundreds and hundreds that I wasnt interested in (all gold not $5 libs alone). This is the first upgrade I've pulled the trigger on.

    I am still curious to understand the mint mark even if it doesnt add any value, I will have to do some research, thanks for the opinions and the link.

    Although my favorites gold coins generally are still the later indian head designs, this Lib is probably my favorite individual coin in my set right now. Anxiously awaiting the mailman, should have it in hand by early afternoon.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a beauty! She’s s twin to mine:

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just took a look at the mint marks on VarietyVista. Yours is an S/S, probably large/small like the others, but it is neither of those pictured, as the position of the mint mark is different from both RPM-001 and RPM-002. In 1900, a new S punch was introduced that was a bit wider than the previous ones. 1900-S Morgan dollars are known with both wide and narrow (but no wide/narrow) mint marks, which made me think yours could be two different S mint marks in the first place. If you look at CoinFacts pictures of 1899-S $5s, you'll see the differently shaped mint mark. There may be some of these for 1900-S, but alas, there are but a paltry few images on CoinFacts and all are wide S mint marks.

    If you want your name in lights on the VarietyVista website, you could send it to James Wiles and he should add it as RPM-003. RPM-002 is also listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide as FS-501, but with no premium.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin. Great die cracks around the rim and from tip of wing to rim. Red over O is definitely natural. Red on rim could be paint....weird for sure. S/s is my wag on the RPM.
    Nice addition.

    bob :)

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  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Messydesk thanks for the info, very cool! Asheland that is a very nice "twin!"

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin came in. Looks great, as expected. Nice fresh holder. I am pretty miserable at coin photography - can't buy anything without a trueview!

  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really like the look of this one, if the luster is solid I think it's a complete winner. Until you start looking for a nice $5 in 65 you don't realize how hard it is to find. I probably scanned for a year looking for the right one and it's just hard to find one that is all there for the grade like it should be.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very nice pickup! I love the die crack.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin

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