1944-s Walkers in gem, now worth under $200?

Wow, this was a better date for a long time, worth over $300.
I checked recent results, most are under $200. Did I miss something, did the population increase? https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1944-s-50c/6623
Of course there are outliers like this one that NGC gave a star to: https://coins.ha.com/itm/walking-liberty-half-dollars/1944-s-50c-ms65-and-9733-ngc-ngc-census-1276-203-pcgs-population-3039-652-cdn-210-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc/a/131846-23507.s?ic16=ViewItem-Auction-Archive-PreviousPricesHeritage-081514
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Canary. Coal mine.
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CDN bid $210, MV about $275
I might start shopping around for one. Never owned one in Gem. Not something I would give away. Wonder if it would be only one in room at my next show...
See an NGC piece in auction on the bay $189
Yes Canary in the mine not doing do well.
Maybe wrong holder?
Both NGC and PCGS gems were selling under $200, generally $150-$200 the last few months. Maybe summer doldrums?
Never thought these late date Walkers were anything special unless they had a fantastic strike.
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They are pretty plentiful, so I'm not surprised at the red arrows. 41-s and 42-S are a lot tougher in gem, with 43-S being the easiest of the 41-s-44-s "better date in gem" crowd.
This coin comes up on the 44-s Walker page:
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I see a lot of these errors on coins. Look at the 5 once spot free 5 oz ATB and when you deep dive sure enough deluted by clad qtrs
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Just check out the PCGS coin facts page, 44-s 50c in MS65, sold on ebay and HA for under $200 or so. So no, "wholesale" vs. retail doesn't factor in, these are auction results with all fees included, except maybe HA where you have to pay shipping as a buyer.
White coins will likely have their day again
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That could "Walk" right over to my registry set. Just sayin'
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Soft markets, Blue hairs mostly selling and no interest from the new young blood. Basic economics, supply/demand.
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There are over 3000 in PCGS plastic and 1200 in NGC. Are there over 4000 Walker collectors needing one?
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There USED TO BE.
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It's hard to know what those populations really are with the resubmissions. I remember it was one of Scott Travers' recommended crack out plays with the big spread between 64/65 with the 44-s. And we have millions of collectors; even though there are plenty who want a short or long set of Walkers in gem, even if they can't afford them.
Pretty toning helps, but it is a common coin after all.
I have a May or June 1989 bluesheet somewhere that lists the 44-S @$3400 in PCGS MS65 & @$7000 in PCGS MS66. The grading was stricter but the money was real.
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. The 1944-S in PCGS MS66 back during the short-lived market peak in '89 wasn't $7000, it was $7700.
There are a few ways to read this:
Which seems the most likely?
I ran a bunch of late date walkers from an old collection the past 6 months, PCGS and ngc, I was surprised actually how soft they have become. its no summer doldrum
I wonder how much of this is due to collectors moving from date/mm sets to type sets, vs. general softness across the entire series.
A lot of '44'S Wlh's are softly struck-even in the higher grades, It definitly is a coin which needs to be viewed with at least a decent photo, Good strikes are tough with most of the short set S mint Walkers, and decent, well struck ones seem to be priced a lot higher than the 'normal' softly struck ones.
I had a 44-s that I sent to Mr. Nachbar for an offer with some other coins years ago, it was PCGS MS65 nice white coin. He said he would offer $70 or so that it was a 64 not a 65; so what would he sell it as?
I'm guessing grade-flation is also playing a role.
I submitted a 44S from an original roll with an above average strike back in the 90's
that came back as a 64 and I was Ok with that.....it's an easy 65 by "today's" standards,
or at least comparable to many that I see.
Maybe I will check out some WLH's... sounds like a buying opportunity
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Yes summer doldrums. Bad time to sell. Good time to buy if can buy r right.
Just hold your ground and things should pickup when summer over.
Do we have millionS of collectors?
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Yup summer doldrums but if your looking to buy one there are a handful of specimens going for under 200
Heres one for $180 if you are in the market
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-S-Walking-Liberty-PCGS-MS65-Rev-Tyes-9342190/113299336358?hash=item1a612aaca6%3Ag%3AOgcAAOSwqj5bWZ0C%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2194404%21US%21-1&LH_BIN=1
I really think collectors should consider that the has been a huge decrease in the number of "classic" collectors. Back in the day, almost everyone was collecting the main 20th century series and then maybe specializing in a couple series. I think the number of people that collect this way is WAY down.
I posted this before but I'll do it again: there may be more people collecting the ASE "silver dollar" series than the Morgan dollar series.
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Ahhhh....easy peasy... Blue hairs disinherit the young blood.
Dang, now I know where the September's extra money is going, I would much rather have a full white MS66 Walker than any scrap the mint will be selling next month, unless they sell some kids set where I have to buy a bunch for the grandkids and such, beware when you get kids interested in coins it can get expensive...
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Definitely agree! Right now it’s easy to get numi things for the grandkid, nephews, nieces... no requests just happy to see/get.
A couple of them have sold in the last few weeks, here a PCGS MS65 cac with substandard images sold for under $150: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-S-Walking-Liberty-Half-Dollar-PCGS-MS-65-CAC-/254323062269?nma=true&si=AxILQdKMZsS9Cvfl6ubuWx3Fff4%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
And this NGC MS65 sold for $220, much better pics.: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-S-Walking-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-NGC-Graded-MS-65-/264426825363?nma=true&si=AxILQdKMZsS9Cvfl6ubuWx3Fff4%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
An ICG MS65 sold for $150: https://www.ebay.com/itm/233323633705