Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
@amwldcoin said:
Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
He said "virtually ALWAYS", so he lacks the conviction of the caps
@amwldcoin said:
Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
He said "virtually ALWAYS", so he lacks the conviction of the caps
I would agree with virtually always - as it would be exceedingly rare to find a coin that toned peripherally otherwise.
however the poll didnt say virtually always, it said: "It can ONLY happen if something is in direct contact with the coin's edge." This statement seems theoretically flawed as an absolute statement must require only one counter example to prove it wrong.
@TradesWithChops said:
i feel the answers are inadequate, and multiple answers are correct. That said, it's an area I do not have experience with.
From a strictly statistical perspective, toning occurs in random patterns all the time - for [a reason - we can abstract that away]. So, if it happens on a coin in all different ways, by making it peripheral, you're either witnessing a very low probability event of randomness taking shape/occurring on the edges, or it's been caused by something, on purpose or not (like the old albums). I admit, it is MUCH higher probability of the latter than the former.
Thanks for your addition to the thread! Yes, the poll is ONLY concerned with fully PERIPHERAL TONING.
@amwldcoin said:
Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
Thanks, I had hopped that my use of "VIRTUALLY" to qualify the word "always" would reduce any unnecessary comments.
@TradesWithChops said:
i feel the answers are inadequate, and multiple answers are correct. That said, it's an area I do not have experience with.
From a strictly statistical perspective, toning occurs in random patterns all the time - for [a reason - we can abstract that away]. So, if it happens on a coin in all different ways, by making it peripheral, you're either witnessing a very low probability event of randomness taking shape/occurring on the edges, or it's been caused by something, on purpose or not (like the old albums). I admit, it is MUCH higher probability of the latter than the former.
Thanks for your addition to the thread! Yes, the poll is ONLY concerned with fully PERIPHERAL TONING.
My math teacher used this phrase all the time, and I think it applies here....
"FULLY PERIPHERAL TONING" randomly occurring is "theoretically possible, but practically improbable."
This would apply for things that have a 0% statistical chance, but COULD HAPPEN. It has to do with things like arriving home at the exact same time of day on two different days of the week. It could happen, but the chances are 0% because time is an infinite measurement, and arrival is a discrete time. the probability of a "constant" in an interval is always 0. Anyway, this is where my mind went with this poll. It could theoretically happen, but I don't know of any examples.
@amwldcoin said:
Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
Thanks, I had hopped that my use of "VIRTUALLY" to qualify the word "always" would reduce any unnecessary comments.
Oops, I see that has been addressed above.
consider my previous statement one of those " unnecessary comments. " hahahaha
@amwldcoin said:
Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
@Insider2 said:
I think we can conclude from this poll that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge.
He said "virtually ALWAYS", so he lacks the conviction of the caps
I would agree with virtually always - as it would be exceedingly rare to find a coin that toned peripherally otherwise.
however the poll didnt say virtually always, it said: "It can ONLY happen if something is in direct contact with the coin's edge." This statement seems theoretically flawed as an absolute statement must require only one counter example to prove it wrong.
Direct contact was one choice. Close proximity was another. It appears that most who responded agree with me - both are the best choices in the poll. Now I'll want to find out which of these two is the better choice.
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Not in my book! Always is the same as saying Never say Never!
He said "virtually ALWAYS", so he lacks the conviction of the caps
I would agree with virtually always - as it would be exceedingly rare to find a coin that toned peripherally otherwise.
however the poll didnt say virtually always, it said: "It can ONLY happen if something is in direct contact with the coin's edge." This statement seems theoretically flawed as an absolute statement must require only one counter example to prove it wrong.
Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
More Than It's Chopped Up To Be
Thanks for your addition to the thread! Yes, the poll is ONLY concerned with fully PERIPHERAL TONING.
Thanks, I had hopped that my use of "VIRTUALLY" to qualify the word "always" would reduce any unnecessary comments.
Oops, I see that has been addressed above.
My math teacher used this phrase all the time, and I think it applies here....
"FULLY PERIPHERAL TONING" randomly occurring is "theoretically possible, but practically improbable."
This would apply for things that have a 0% statistical chance, but COULD HAPPEN. It has to do with things like arriving home at the exact same time of day on two different days of the week. It could happen, but the chances are 0% because time is an infinite measurement, and arrival is a discrete time. the probability of a "constant" in an interval is always 0. Anyway, this is where my mind went with this poll. It could theoretically happen, but I don't know of any examples.
Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
More Than It's Chopped Up To Be
consider my previous statement one of those " unnecessary comments.
" hahahaha
Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
More Than It's Chopped Up To Be
Direct contact was one choice. Close proximity was another. It appears that most who responded agree with me - both are the best choices in the poll. Now I'll want to find out which of these two is the better choice.