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Anyone ever try KOINSOLV to conserve a coin?

Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

I've found that this is a pretty good chemical to remove grime from coins. It seems to work similar to acetone but I don't know its composition or the chemistry. Stay tuned until the end of the poll for a possible surprise. :p

Anyone ever try KOINSOLV to conserve a coin?

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no never have

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a can of it years ago, still have it,, Never tried it.

    GrandAm :)
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is an organic solvent mixture: propanol, propyl bromide. It's a commercial degreaser so it is probably a bit harsher as a solvent than acetone - although it shouldn't touch the metal itself.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this from E&T Kointainer Company of Sidney, OH?

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Is this from E&T Kointainer Company of Sidney, OH?

    Yes.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It is an organic solvent mixture: propanol, propyl bromide. It's a commercial degreaser so it is probably a bit harsher as a solvent than acetone - although it shouldn't touch the metal itself.

    Yes, n-Propyl bromide, 1-Propanol, Oxygenated hydrocarbons, and Epoxybutane.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is (or used to be, if he is marketing a new product under the old name) trichlorotriflouroethane. Darned good coin solvent. However, it is one of the types of products that damage the ozone layer. The government drove it out of the market with a prohibitively high tax, which is why E&T stopped selling it over 10 years ago.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    It is (or used to be, if he is marketing a new product under the old name) trichlorotriflouroethane. Darned good coin solvent. However, it is one of the types of products that damage the ozone layer. The government drove it out of the market with a prohibitively high tax, which is why E&T stopped selling it over 10 years ago.

    Well, surprise, surprise...I must be the last one to know.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    It is (or used to be, if he is marketing a new product under the old name) trichlorotriflouroethane. Darned good coin solvent. However, it is one of the types of products that damage the ozone layer. The government drove it out of the market with a prohibitively high tax, which is why E&T stopped selling it over 10 years ago.

    Well, surprise, surprise...I must be the last one to know.

    Yes, if you "google" "propyl bromide degreaser" they discuss it as a chlorofluorocarbon replacement in vapor degreasers.

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to get trichlorotrifluoroethane from the university chem lab when it was available. Great stuff for removing PVC plasticizer. The Koinsolv formula is the propyl-bromide et al, since at least the late 90s. I ordered some and got the SDS to see what was in it. IMO, it didn't work any better than acetone on PVC residue, so I didn't buy any more

    @CaptHenway said:
    It is (or used to be, if he is marketing a new product under the old name) trichlorotriflouroethane. Darned good coin solvent. However, it is one of the types of products that damage the ozone layer. The government drove it out of the market with a prohibitively high tax, which is why E&T stopped selling it over 10 years ago.

    @Insider2 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It is an organic solvent mixture: propanol, propyl bromide. It's a commercial degreaser so it is probably a bit harsher as a solvent than acetone - although it shouldn't touch the metal itself.

    Yes, n-Propyl bromide, 1-Propanol, Oxygenated hydrocarbons, and Epoxybutane.

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds similar to what happened to Blue Ribbon.
    The original formulation contained the ozone reducing chloro/fluorocarbons and worked
    great on copper. The newer stuff you may as well use light machine oil. Fortunately I have an ample supply of the original, and I use it very sparingly :)

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've used Acetone before, but not on a coin.
    We used it as a de-glazer on our rollers in what we call the roller train.
    Form rollers etc...Sometimes 40 or so rollers. Nasty stuff , but efective.
    Knowing what its capable of i would never use that on a coin, worring about the patina.
    Tell one thing try to put it in a cup , and let the fun begin.
    Love to find a way to clean some....But acetone or anything perfumey simular, run for the hills,
    or just get your nails done. Ehhh !

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although I have not tried Koinsolve, it has been mentioned on the forum before. Not sure why I missed this one during the couple of years I was doing all my experimentation... but as an organic solvent, it should do well without harming the metal. Cheers, RickO

  • I had a can that was so old, that it rusted a hole on the bottom and leaked on my shelf.
    E&T had coin dissolve that was the best I have seen, I used on some cheap proofs in the 1980s and they are still crystal clear. Besides the cancer connection if the cap was not tight with tape around it it would evaporate quickly.

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