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How does the proverb go? An uneducated person and his legal tender shall veer in opposite vectors?
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Greg Maddux #1 Master SetGreg Maddux #2 Basic Set
Isn’t it possible that it’s a scanner issue? There seem to be many satisfied buyers going back a long time, though of course that doesn’t prove anything.
Report the seller. I just did - using this link as proof.
Neither do these scans.
Original scans could be lower resolution, or it could be that these are copies of copies of copies of scans. Each time losing resolution.
I scanned some 1971 Topps baseball cards and they looked horrible compared to how they looked in hand, the scanner made it look like there was a lot of "snow" on the borders, when there was not.
I would still wait for PSA graded copies.
Now your comparing two different cards to prove one is a fake?
REALLY?
I'm out on this thread.
To me those images look like the scans my old scanner would produce. The Drysdale looks like an actual image taken with a camera and not a scan since it isn't cropped nicely at the edges. Most scanner software would crop the image at the edges automatically. The appearance of the images all has to do with dithering and half toning. I'm no expert, but those are the terms to lookup if you want to learn about it. All I can say for certain is either the cards are fake or they aren't, but those are certainly some bad images to be posting on something they are trying to sell.
Kris
My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black
Funny how he calls a lot of the cards cigar box finds.
Yes, it's a non-CCD scanner, with settings attempting to optimize for scanning through a slab, at an abnormally high dpi. I accidentally created a similar effect with my old scanner, but can't find a way to do it with my V600.
This thread has no "proof", just the bloviating of one individual.
Paging @HighGradeLegends
Yes, I'm sure it's just coincidence he just happens to find all these valuable cards in cigar boxes. And it's just coincidence all his ungraded cards happen to look fake while all his graded cards look different.
I can see the OP's point to be cautious -- I think I originally saw the same seller and suspected some of the cards (before reading this thread). However, it could be the seller's scanner or whatever is being used for the pictures. As to why you could get different results from a slabbed card vs. raw card, perhaps the slab lifts the card off the scanner glass enough to prevent the blacks to appear like the raw cards?
I also looked at the sellers feedback and at 100% Positive I just couldn't make any definitive decision on legit or not...
Last year I bought some 1963 cards from him and all the cards were fine. I believe he has a very low quality scanner. That's the reason for the poor scans. He told me that his father was a sports writer and he had accumulated a large sports memorabilia collection during his lifetime. I think that's the reason why he has such a nice collection of cards and such.
Patrick
I did submit all the cards I bought and received some good grades. Some of the cards were amazingly pack fresh. I do think the prices he charges are expensive. But I also understand he wants the highest sale price possible. I wish I could afford to buy some of his Mantles and other 1950's cards. Those cards are way past my budget.
Patrick
That's some powerful information. If I had first-hand experience his cards were legit and also received TPG grades I would be all over some of those Mantle cards (that 1953 Mantle looks awesome, but the back is o/c).
If I was the seller, I would submit them to PSA. He would then be able to sell all the cards faster. But I get the feeling he doesn't want to deal with the headache.
Patrick
Be careful with this guy. He has a 2nd username on ebay, but I will have to find it. That is where he sells the graded cards he cherry picked from the "cigar box". He also formerly admitted that all of the cards had rubberbands around them and so a lot of them have indentation which PSA will classify as a 5 maximum IMO. Buy at your own risk, as I have watched him for a year.
Fugazies, No doubt
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Haha - Donnie Brasco?
I'll tell you what has gotten out of hand, the fact that I have a song stuck in my head . I just want silence! The song is "Sweet Little Lies" by Fleetwood Mac. It's enough to drive you mad.
I asked him about this...
New message from: truckeemeadows Top Rated Seller(403Turquoise Star)
I appreciate the heads up, but I don't get into any of that nonsense. Some people can think or say whatever they want. I'll let my feedback on eBay speak for itself. If I were selling less than authentic and exceptional cards on eBay, I simply couldn't have the feedback I have. It would be impossible.
And, I'm 62 years old, I don't do this for a living, and our family does not rely on this for money. I just think a lot of people just can't believe other people can actually have good fortune. But, such is life. But, I do appreciate the heads-up, and I thank you for your time.
I got a good laugh at that
I actively collect Kirby Puckett. I have collections of Michael Jordan, Emmitt Smith, Roberto Clemente, Dwight Gooden, Tom Seaver, Errict Rhett and Evan Longoria.
In my experience - and it doesn't mean this is the case every time - when a seller "Goes out of his way" to explain where they got the cards and why they are in such good condition, its a potential sign of a scam. It falls under "answering a question you weren't asked". Seasoned investigators will tell you doing such in an interview is a give away of deception and untruthfulness. This seller may be legit, but there are enough signs to give you pause.
I actively collect Kirby Puckett. I have collections of Michael Jordan, Emmitt Smith, Roberto Clemente, Dwight Gooden, Tom Seaver, Errict Rhett and Evan Longoria.
Congrats on your promotion to 'Beat Cop - Poor Scan Police Division'. Crank up saturation and contrast settings on any non-CCD scanner and post your results. Colors change even on a CCD scanner, you just don't get the pixelation and blur.
I have to stick up for him. I have purchased two cards from him. One came back as colored and he refunded me at once. Another one came back at a much lower grade than I expected and he again bought the card back. He stands by his card and if they are not up to snuff, he will make it right.
Interesting.
So from what I can gather, his cards are at the very least authentic with experiences from those who have actually purchased from him, and not just a random keyboard warriors opinion of his scans. An older gentleman with poor scans who's not hip enough with tech =/= a bunch of fake cards, which seemed to be the premise of this thread starting and the OPs continued rambling. Case closed, and it's not even debatable.
I posted this earlier, but am posting it again to protect our community. He has admitted in earlier auctions under his "other ebay name" that all of the cards were tightly rubber banded. Beyond this, he also has sold graded cards before so the cigar box was cherry picked, which I do not blame him for whatsoever prior to selling the raw, but the listings give you the thought of a find being sold card by card and not missing the 50 best before doing so.
With all of this said, the raw have a very high chance of appearing as a NM card but grading out at a max of 5 due to the rubber band micro-indentation. It is also possible that when a projected 8-9 from his cherry picking didn't meet the PSA standards expected, the card was then simply cracked back out and listed as one of the more attractive cards of his from the special cigar find.
It’s just Little Lies, I think. Great tune.
If I could turn the page,
The times that I’d rearrange...
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Why don't you ask the seller this and post his explanation here for us to judge?
Yes, it is a great tune. When it comes to my overspending on cards and hiding them from my wife, I think the title of the song would more appropriately be called "big lies". If I get caught overspending and hiding them, the song will be called "You can go your on way" by Fleetwood Mac.
This thread reminded me that love is a battlefield.