1902 Barber Quarter - Grading

va_resellersva_resellers Posts: 90 ✭✭
edited July 31, 2019 11:45AM in Q & A Forum

Would need this to grade out at around a low AU (50-53) to be worthwhile, and obviously not be cleaned. There are some fine scratches on the obverse.





Thanks in advance 😎

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2019 11:55AM

    Some tough and blunt love for you <3 and keep posting! Your coin is a "Dog." There is nothing nice about it except that it is round, genuine, and made of silver.

    Save your certification money.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now, let's talk about it. You see the scratches and a little wear. What else?

  • That's a great looking "dog" in my eyes ! I'll keep the mutt in a flip!

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  • @Insider2 said:
    Now, let's talk about it. You see the scratches and a little wear. What else?

    Damage on the "0" ? Spotting?

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @va_resellers said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Now, let's talk about it. You see the scratches and a little wear. What else?

    Damage on the "0" ? Spotting?

    Back off the details... now look at the entire coin and focus on its color and surface. Describe what you see.

  • @Insider2 said:

    @va_resellers said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Now, let's talk about it. You see the scratches and a little wear. What else?

    Damage on the "0" ? Spotting?

    Back off the details... now look at the entire coin and focus on its color and surface. Describe what you see.

    Lack of cartwheel....i.e. cleaned/dipped?

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why is there a lack of cartwheel luster? Does the coin have any luster?

  • @Insider2 said:
    Why is there a lack of cartwheel luster? Does the coin have any luster?

    Yes it does

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Correct! It has lots of luster but the luster is not coming from original **Mint luster." Now, describe the surface in a few words and don't mention scratches, cleaning, or luster. What does it look like . What is its "texture."

  • @Insider2 said:
    Correct! It has lots of luster but the luster is not coming from original **Mint luster." Now, describe the surface in a few words and don't mention scratches, cleaning, or luster. What does it look like . What is its "texture."

    Overly Shiny given the visible wear

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope. "Shiny" does not describe the "fabric," the ""texture"

  • @Insider2 said:
    Nope. "Shiny" does not describe the "fabric," the ""texture"

    Smooth

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @va_resellers said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Nope. "Shiny" does not describe the "fabric," the ""texture"

    Smooth

    Are you kidding me! There is not a smooth area anywhere one the coin except possibly the rim. Look again.

  • @Insider2 said:

    @va_resellers said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Nope. "Shiny" does not describe the "fabric," the ""texture"

    Smooth

    Are you kidding me! There is not a smooth area anywhere one the coin except possibly the rim. Look again.

    Rough....yes I was kidding

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  • Can we say it was harshly cleaned at some point to close this thread out? I appreciate the help

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2, 2019 2:35PM

    You can close it anytime. The coin is cleaned but not what I would call harshly. However, the excessive marks all over the surface + the cleaning is very harsh (damaged).

    It's too bad other members could not learn from this coin. Thanks for posting it.

  • I learned something....grading is not an exact science and is far more difficult than even many "experts" probably realize. So many nuances that really only a trained eye can spot. I appreciate the insight....plenty more to show!

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  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    What type of cleaning creates the pitted texture?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mechanical cleaning does not cause pitting. Chemical cleaning can. This coin has excessive marks.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reminds me of someone using toothpaste or some other very fine grit paste to clean/polish the coin. Really messed it up. IMO.

  • I will be returning coin to seller....thanks for the feedback 👍

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