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Has ANYONE ever seen this error?! Or is this a fake?

Lindsay1587Lindsay1587 Posts: 21
edited July 6, 2019 10:57PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Appears to be a 1964 roosevelt dime obverse, with a wheat penny reverse. The pictures are blurry, as it wasnt my camera that took them, but ive got to know...

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin for magic tricks. :)

  • I held the coin in my hands, earlier and got a really good look... from the side, it looks exactly like a regular dime with the reeded edge, but when i flipped it, it looked like a penny that had been struck through the dime press, the e pluribus unum is shaved down at the top, and the wheat ears are VERY close to the edge... its not any thicker than a normal, dime and too uniform to me...

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You seem to really want this to be a real error. It isn't. It is just part of a trick coin, many of which were made back in the 1950's and 1960's and earlier.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pics of the edge.

    You can find many trick “magic” coins on the Bay.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely not a mint product....careful examination will usually reveal the clues....It cannot happen. Cheers, RickO

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lindsay1587 said:
    I held the coin in my hands, earlier and got a really good look... from the side, it looks exactly like a regular dime with the reeded edge, but when i flipped it, it looked like a penny that had been struck through the dime press, the e pluribus unum is shaved down at the top, and the wheat ears are VERY close to the edge... its not any thicker than a normal, dime and too uniform to me...

    Pretend for a moment that it is not a mint error and think about how some could cut down a cent and insert it into a dime that has been "hollowed out" to receive the shaved cent. Now ... look for the seam between the two different metals. Look closely enough, as with a magnifier, and you will see the seam on the 'penny side' of the edge where the copper meets the silver reeding.

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  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ponder the seam.

    Even if it was "made" at the mint, which is was not, you have copper and silver. Somewhere, they have to come together. Once you find that interface, you will find the seam.

    But this is a created, probably magicians, coin.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a magician's coin made outside the mint not unlike the two headed or two tailed coins which occasionally shows up in circulation...

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    1) ask yourself how could this happen in the minting process (hint: it can't).

    This!

    Always ask the above question when looking at potential error coins.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a regular ELVEN CENT coin to me. Heads I win, tails you lose.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2019 9:31AM

    @Onastone said:
    Looks like a regular ELVEN CENT coin to me. Heads I win, tails you lose.

    Here's the real deal ......

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like everyone else said it's a trick coin and pretty common.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are at least two decent YouTube videos...

    This one shows the classic lathe method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHMZByJl61c

    This one uses a CNC mill to make a "coin" from a blank - you could easily make it correctly sized with whatever design you want and also machine the reeded edge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t_t8Sp0fAg

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2019 5:09PM

    Many error exist. Discovered and not yet discovered. That one you have should go to our host for grading to make sure. Also research on the PCGS site or the cherry picker guild to find similar. Each error will be slightly different but most will have variable versions. Good luck

    Best place to buy !
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mint employees have too much time on their hands. The others ( toyed with coins) are the work of wannabe mint employees.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    100% fake.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:
    Many error exist. Discovered and not yet discussed. That one you have would got to our host for grading for sure. Also research on the PCGS site or the cherry picker guild to find similar. Each error will be slightly different but most will have variable versions. Good luck

    ??? You're not actually suggesting to the OP that they might have an actual error, are you?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2019 2:10PM

    @Lindsay1587 said:
    I held the coin in my hands, earlier and got a really good look... from the side, it looks exactly like a regular dime with the reeded edge, but when i flipped it, it looked like a penny that had been struck through the dime press, the e pluribus unum is shaved down at the top, and the wheat ears are VERY close to the edge... its not any thicker than a normal, dime and too uniform to me...

    It is 2 different planchets with dies from 2 different years. No question it's homemade

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Onastone said:
    Looks like a regular ELVEN CENT coin to me. Heads I win, tails you lose.

    Here's the real deal ......

    Wow. How did you ever find this? The errors that really peaked my interest years ago were the Sacagawea with the quarter error. I think those were real deals too.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Onastone said:
    Looks like a regular ELVEN CENT coin to me. Heads I win, tails you lose.

    Here's the real deal ......

    >

    Wow. How did you ever find this? The errors that really peaked my interest years ago were the Sacagawea with the quarter error. I think those were real deals too.

    I buy them from different sources for inventory. At present, I have 15 different dates of Cents struck on struck dimes.

    Yes, The Sac on the MD quarter is the real deal. It was one of my favorite coins I had until I sold it way underpriced.

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Kkathyl said:
    Many error exist. Discovered and not yet discussed. That one you have would got to our host for grading for sure. Also research on the PCGS site or the cherry picker guild to find similar. Each error will be slightly different but most will have variable versions. Good luck

    ??? You're not actually suggesting to the OP that they might have an actual error, are you?

    No I simply suggest they get expert opinion. Many Newbs will argue so I say take it to someone who knows.

    Best place to buy !
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice example of a man-made
    magician's coin. (OP's coin)

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.

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