Has anyone else viewed Larry Shepherd's proof Indian collection in the Registry Showcase?
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Happened across his showcase set recently. Had to go back and look again tonight. Twenty five years of putting aside some of the nice ones. Congrats Larry!
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The Nicolas Winding Refn of Indian Head Cents.
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Nice coins but I don’t understand why he juices the trueviews.
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Agree. I think Larry has great coins but also find it very strange that he juices TrueViews and doesn't link to the originals. I'm not sure why he does that. Here's one I ran into. The top is original while the bottom is what was posted on his website.
He doesn't believe in CAC as he has higher standards:
Here are some of his nice Eliasberg coins:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1021857/article-blue-and-purple-toned-copper-coins-eliasberg#latest
Here's the PCGS Original TrueView and the SIMCO Juiced TrueView for the 2nd coin in the Registry album, the 1864 Indian Head Cent.
This is a great looking coin so I don't understand why there's a need for the obvious juicing. The juice doesn't even make the coin look much better in my opinion.
Way over saturated and washed out.
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One year ago at the Summer ANA in Philly, he showcased this set and I was fortunate to see every single coin in the set. Several phenomenal coins.
Notice the “G” in PCGS and that would be one of adjusted colors.
This thread was not intended to be a Shepherd bashing thread. I would invite you to ask him in person at the next major show why he does this. Dragging him through the mud here on this forum is bad form. There are some amazing coins in that Digital Album link.
edited to add........ I don't own any blue copper. No horse in that race.
Folks here will always get riled when someone alters their coin pictures, for whatever reason. It's disingenuous and bad form!
This thread was not intended to be a Shepherd bashing thread.
most threads take on a life of their own, trying to control that direction is futile. given the recent "Blue IHC" thread and the fact that the subject of that and this is the same person it should have been expected.
I don't think I've bashed Larry. I've mentioned, not in jest, that I think he has very nice coins and I'm genuinely curious why he juices his photos as I don't think it's necessary as I've mentioned. That being said, I do think people looking at his TrueViews, such as in his album you posted above, should be aware that they have been modified as should PCGS because they have indicated they frown upon modifications of TrueViews.
In other posts, such as the blue copper and CAC copper threads, I've given his point of view some attention that would otherwise be lacking. I did not make a judgment on blue copper or CAC copper myself, and there is support for his views here. While his posts may be controversial here, I think that is his intention, especially when he specifically comments on named forum participants. I think the posts are useful because he seems to follow these forums but not post here himself. If anything, I think he may enjoy the discussion that is happening because it is causing debate and there is support for his views. I also haven't seen anyone say the 4 coins in his blog post are the result of MS70 yet.
Larry does have some Indian Cents. His Classic Commemorative set was a
superior set. I wish I could've purchased a few of them.
Indeed it was. I would wager a lot of those have been cracked and crossed and recrossed along with reholders, as I have not seen many of that set offerred for sale. Look at the bright side though, as commems in general have taken a huge hit in the past few years, one can obtain quite a few nice ones for far less thn when Shepard's set was sold.
I hope he’s not intentionally manipulating the images. Is it possible that they appear lighter, by virtue of being posted to his site?
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They don’t seem to just appear lighter, they appear to have been modified. And not all TrueViews are modified the same way. Anything is possible but it would be highly usual if this was a random effect of uploading to a site.
Mark, the original images appear to have been made brighter.
It looks like a wonderful set, but a shame that the images seem to be off
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Hard to trust a dealer who juices Trueviews and insults those who disagree with his theories.
@Zoins " This is a great looking coin so I don't understand why there's a need for the obvious juicing. The juice doesn't even make the coin look much better in my opinion."
No question that the TrueView was adjusted. But the adjusted image provides much better visual definition of the coin's devices. Probably a good technique to better evaluate a coin based upon a TrueView image. Might be able to see some defects that are "toned" out in the TV.
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Nice set!!
It’s refreshing to see somebody doing it their own way and not being influenced And manipulated by a popular yet controversial entity or the general market.
He’s a leader not a follower.
Photos look mildly juiced to me but not too bad.
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So the only manipulation you see is with respect to the images and that’s preferable to being influenced by an “entity”? 😉
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I think that the photo manipulation is minor and negligible.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I think that the photo manipulation is minor and negligible as well as unnecessary and misleading.
And how does the “entity” manipulate people?
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@MFeld I have already voiced my opinion on this 1000 times. I have nothing further to add.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I don’t recall any of your previous posts/opinions accusing CAC of manipulating people, or I wouldn’t have asked the question.
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Really apologize for my comment. I didn't think that it would start this. That being said someone above mentioned asking him at a show. I don't have any form of going to a show anytime soon and I once asked on a post of his on FB and it was deleted.
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For some reason, I can't get to his website anymore.
Oh well.
Is this the toned copper dealer that Laura loved to slam in her blog posts and in old threads (some may now have been deleted)?
Yeah, someone else mentioned a week ago that it was down. Was down for me a moment ago as well.
I would assume so, as he is anti CAC on his website.