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Here's a recently acquired 1844. I just took a quick grab shot of it but you should be able to clearly see the features in question. Note what appears to be an underlying lower loop of the 8 at left along with a bit of an underlying 1 at left.
Perhaps I'm not looking in the right places but I can't find this variety. It has no diagnostics of a 44/81.
A simple recut pair of digits perhaps? Haven't seen another like it and find it curious that I can't find images of a similar piece.
Any opinions or input would be appreciated.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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**A simple recut pair of digits perhaps? **
That's what I think.
I don't study, nor have resources for any of the large cent varieties after 1839.
So other members who do can probably be more helpful.
PS - great pics!
That's a repunched date, and a characteristic of the 1844 N-3 (rarity 2)
A high res shot of both sides would be more helpful, but I'm fairly certain.
Mike, looks like you nailed it. HA had a nice mint state example showing the same repunches on the 1 and 8. Interestingly though, they also had examples of N-3 with no trace of this whatsoever.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
I first thought this was crazy but you are correct, Die State C shows no repunching.
That's why I was having issues. I saw some supposed N-3's listed elsewhere that had no trace, and thought either they were wrong or I was. Early die state before the repunch, or really late die state with these features scoured out from striking?
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
I appreciate the assistance. Thanks
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
The dies were lapped causing the repunching to disappear in later examples. The example from Heritage was likely a later die state.
Nice find and excellent pictures.... Cheers, RickO
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Interesting to find that the late die state coins do not exhibit the characteristics of the repunched date.
The late die state N-3 (free of repunching and with reverse die cracks) is more common than the early one. Tom Bush sent me this one 10 years ago and I've kept it raw in my Dansco since.
Lance.