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My new 1834 N-5 Large Cent (Large 8 and Stars, Medium Letters) ....GTG?

jedmjedm Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 27, 2019 7:15PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I welcome your comments. Another hole filled in my Red Book variety set.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF25

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin! A wonderful variety...very tough to find.

    VF for sure. Looks at least 25 to me. 30 wouldn't surprise me.

    I have a VF20 in my Dansco. Bought from Doug Bird eight years ago. It's a favorite.
    Lance.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30 is my guess.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    30

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    25

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I edited the title in response to Roger's thread about what might encourage collectors to explore die varieties, hoping that just seeing the additional information in a thread title may spark an interest. No one has guessed what the graders ATS gave this specimen.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jedm said:
    I edited the title in response to Roger's thread about what might encourage collectors to explore die varieties, hoping that just seeing the additional information in a thread title may spark an interest. No one has guessed what the graders ATS gave this specimen.

    I like that. Large 8, large stars, medium letters. N-5. An R5+.

    If no one has guessed correctly then it would seem NGC said VF20 or 30. I don't see it as XF. But NGC can be a little more liberal.

    I would crack it, and treat it with Verdigone (which won't remove the toughest, oldest crud but will stabilize what's there), then send it to our host.
    Lance.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice copper...and I like the large 8....stands out when one knows what to look for...I wondered why they did not call it the 'small 3' though.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin Thanks for the advice on what to do next. I like the idea of getting it into our host's plastic. The seller mentioned that it was recently graded and I like a slab that's not all scratched up, so that added to my interest. I do like the originality; however, I welcome your suggestion on how the surfaces may be improved. I have never used Verdigone- will you go into more details about the benefit of that over acetone please? By the way the pros ATS graded it as VF-35 but I would think if our hosts see it as 25 or 30 it'd be more in line with what the consensus is here on the thread.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Nice copper...and I like the large 8....stands out when one knows what to look for...I wondered why they did not call it the 'small 3' though.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Because it’s the digit ‘8’ that varies in size that year.
    Here are a couple more from the same year that show the small 8:


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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jedm said:
    @lkeigwin Thanks for the advice on what to do next. I like the idea of getting it into our host's plastic. The seller mentioned that it was recently graded and I like a slab that's not all scratched up, so that added to my interest. I do like the originality; however, I welcome your suggestion on how the surfaces may be improved. I have never used Verdigone- will you go into more details about the benefit of that over acetone please? By the way the pros ATS graded it as VF-35 but I would think if our hosts see it as 25 or 30 it'd be more in line with what the consensus is here on the thread.

    I forgot that the product's name changed to VerdiCare.
    Here's a thread about it:

    It appears to be difficult to find. :/
    Lance.

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Walkerguy, love the double profile!

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice old copper! I see the OP coin as VF25...

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭

    25

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.

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