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Guess the Grade Trade Dollar Version {Grades revealed}

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 24, 2019 7:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Please guess the grade of each.
If you'd like, please also guess which one sold for more.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/62

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • SimpleCollectorSimpleCollector Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Going 63 on number 2 and that is the one that sold for more

  • shishshish Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61/63 number 2 sold for more.

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60/63......No guess on sales....weird things happen in auctions... Cheers, RickO

  • MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 320 ✭✭✭

    55/62 Higher price paid for the 1873

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrBluster said:
    55/62 Higher price paid for the 1873

    Note: they are both 1878

  • lonn47lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    64/62 1873 paid the most

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For all those guessing, there is no 1873. Both coins are dated 1878.

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking AU58 on both but the reverse on #2 looks MS. I would pay more for #2.

  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55/58 and the second one was more costly.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/62

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58
    58+

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some are close...I’ll reveal later tonight

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2019 5:26PM

    @U1Chicago It always helps me to enlarge the👇images to highest resolution to estimate grading from photos.

    Coin #1: MS-62
    Coin #2: AU-58

    Based on my presumed grades, Coin #1 Should have sold for more than Coin #2.

    [See Red Box in 5th image👇below where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]


    Coin #1



    Coin #2



    [Red Box👇below is where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]


    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    58 and 62 .... the 1878 sold for more! 🤣😂😅

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin 1: UNC Details - Environmental Damage...sold for $552.38
    Coin 2: AU 58 w/ CAC...sold for $502.88

    Some thoughts:
    ~I thought the two coins were fairly close in appearance.
    ~I favored the look of coin 1 (the details one) slightly more.
    ~I thought the details example was a good opportunity to pick up a decent Trade Dollar at a discount due to the holder, but it seems a few others also saw it was a decent coin and bid it up

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/714015/1878-S-Trade-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-Genuine-Unc-Details
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/721343/1878-S-Trade-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-AU-58-CAC


  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ED was on my mind when I looked at her but I was giving her the benefit of doubt. I still see it as not UNC. Even if it had straight graded I still think coin #2 is the better coin.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If submitted enough, I think the first one would eventually straight grade.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    Coin 1: UNC Details - Environmental Damage...sold for $552.38
    Coin 2: AU 58 w/ CAC...sold for $502.88

    So a putatively damaged low grade unc is worth more than a CAC 58... Interesting. I would have guessed the second coin would have fetched more as it has superior eye appeal IMHO.

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 9:18AM

    @MFeld @TradeDollarNut Based on my👇following grading assessment posted earlier in this thread (the only only one to correctly grade Coin #1 _MS_ and Coin #2 _AU_), perhaps I should consider becoming a Professional Grader!! 😉👍

    @Stuart said:
    @U1Chicago It always helps me to enlarge the👇images to highest resolution to estimate grading from photos.

    Coin #1: MS-62
    Coin #2: AU-58

    Based on my presumed grades, Coin #1 Should have sold for more than Coin #2.

    [See Red Box in 5th image👇below where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]


    Coin #1



    Coin #2



    [Red Box👇below is where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]


    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stuart said:
    @MFeld @TradeDollarNut Based on my👇following grading assessment posted earlier in this thread (the only only one to correctly grade Coin #1 _MS_ and Coin #2 _AU_), perhaps I should consider becoming a Professional Grader!! 😉👍

    @Stuart said:
    @U1Chicago It always helps me to enlarge the👇images to highest resolution to estimate grading from photos.

    Coin #1: MS-62
    Coin #2: AU-58

    Based on my presumed grades, Coin #1 Should have sold for more than Coin #2.

    [See Red Box in 5th image👇below where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]


    Coin #1



    Coin #2



    [Red Box👇below is where I discerned Coin #2 exhibited Light Wear (and Fingerprint) to justify my AU-58 grade.]

    Sorry, Stuart, but no. In my opinion, a guess of MS62 on the first coin missed the mark more than a guess of AU58 did. And making guesses based on images is very different from grading in person. You can guess "correctly" from an image and still be "wrong" or guess "incorrectly" and still be "right".

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld You know that I greatly respect your opinion and am a big fan of yours, so I gratefully accept your constructive criticism. 👍

    (I’m just honored to be in the same Grading Neighborhood as you and @TradeDollarNut.) 😉

    @MFeld said:
    Sorry, Stuart, but no. In my opinion, a guess of MS62 on the first coin missed the mark more than a guess of AU58 did. And making guesses based on images is very different from grading in person. You can guess "correctly" from an image and still be "wrong" or guess "incorrectly" and still be "right".


    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bump for anyone that did not see the reveal.

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