I can see clearly to tell that it has funky surfaces, but there is a zero percent chance I would try to authenticate it from those images. There is a reason that: (1) the photos are small and crappy and (2) that the coin is not in a major TPG holder.
Looks like it could be a real 1889 Philly. Not sure about the CC's - could have been added....or not. The mushy strike above the ear and on eagle's breast is more like an 89-P than an 89-CC.
Absolute fake, IMO. I don't like the denticles, stars, and lack of sharpness in the details. Everything is mushy. Would not touch it with a 10 foot pole
It appears to have a genuine Morgan dollar obverse and reverse.
But no 1889-CC VAM has a date that is that far from the neck and slanted like that.
So I think it is a "sandwich" job (1889 Philadelphia obverse glued to a more-common CC reverse such as 1882-1884).
Personally I believe it is a surface altered counterfeit. The obverse stars are a big 'tell'. It appears someone along the way dipped in some type of deluded acid to provide slightly granular surfaces.
@dcarr said:
It appears to have a genuine Morgan dollar obverse and reverse.
But no 1889-CC VAM has a date that is that far from the neck and slanted like that.
So I think it is a "sandwich" job (1889 Philadelphia obverse glued to a more-common CC reverse such as 1882-1884).
I like that thought dcarr, The photos look like a real XF/AU coin. Luster and/or striking seem correct to me. So a sandwich job makes sense. Interesting too that there's toning/grime inside the CC's.
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I can see clearly to tell that it has funky surfaces, but there is a zero percent chance I would try to authenticate it from those images. There is a reason that: (1) the photos are small and crappy and (2) that the coin is not in a major TPG holder.
Looks fishy. Perhaps added mintmark? AU 53
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Looks cleaned. If genuine, I'd give it a 53 to 58.
The pictures were taken too many counties away to see anything. Like they're trying to hide something. I'm not even tempted.
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Looks like it could be a real 1889 Philly. Not sure about the CC's - could have been added....or not. The mushy strike above the ear and on eagle's breast is more like an 89-P than an 89-CC.
Danger,danger Will Robinson!
Absolute fake, IMO. I don't like the denticles, stars, and lack of sharpness in the details. Everything is mushy. Would not touch it with a 10 foot pole
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Hard pass.... Just don't like it so would not buy it and would not submit it....
No point in dealing with a raw coin for that date/mm
I think it will grade NG. No Grade , Not Genuine , Not Good.
I wouldn't buy it with your money.
It appears to have a genuine Morgan dollar obverse and reverse.
But no 1889-CC VAM has a date that is that far from the neck and slanted like that.
So I think it is a "sandwich" job (1889 Philadelphia obverse glued to a more-common CC reverse such as 1882-1884).
Personally I believe it is a surface altered counterfeit. The obverse stars are a big 'tell'. It appears someone along the way dipped in some type of deluded acid to provide slightly granular surfaces.
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I like that thought dcarr, The photos look like a real XF/AU coin. Luster and/or striking seem correct to me. So a sandwich job makes sense. Interesting too that there's toning/grime inside the CC's.
That is not a coin I would buy... and I like Morgan CC's....the condition of the stars, and I do not like the look of the CC.... Cheers, RickO
The non reflective patch around the CC tells you all you need to know. Added MM.
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That was the red flag for me also!
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PCGS would grade this a 90. Philly coin with added MM.
It appears someone along the way dipped in some type of deluded acid...........................
someone who thinks it's genuine might be " deluded" but the acid is probably diluted.
Did you do that on your phone? Is it possible to zoom in like that on a PC? I couldn't get anything remotely close to enlarging it that much.
Here's another added MM (not up for sale anywhere).
Yes I’m using an iPhone 8+. I’ve discarded my pc several years ago.
I’ll go to the library if I need to use a pc or to print.