Recommendations for a TL-15 safe?

JDelage

What are the good brands for TL-15 and TL-30 safes? (Does the brand matter actually?) I'm not interested in gun safe recommendations. I specifically am looking for TL-15 or better safes. Yes, I know what they cost.

(We have a SDB for the most precious / least often fondled things; this is meant for jewelry, silver, etc. We have a home security system. Thinking about a dog too.)

Thank you,

JD

Twobitcollector

Sorry I had to check this out. TL-15 is a fuse, that is to me, I was a salesman of electrical supplys'

ScarsdaleCoin

You can save a lot of money by buying a used safe. What state are you located? In on east coast I would recommend Empire Safe in NYC

Hemispherical

TL is a rating system by UL for safes. Read all about here:

1 Scope
1.1 These requirements cover combination locked burglary-resistant safes classified as follows:
a) Test attack against the door and front face:
1) Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TL-15
2) Tool-Resistant Safe – Deposit Safe
3) Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TL-30
4) Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TRTL-30
b) Test attack against the door and body:
1) Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TL-15X6
2) Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TL-30X6
3) Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TRTL-15X6
4) Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TRTL-30X6
5) Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TRTL-60X6
6) Torch-, Explosive-, and Tool-Resistant Safe – Class TXTL-60X6
1.2 These requirements do not cover night depositories intended to receive deposits from outside a building into a receiving safe inside a building. Such requirements are in the Standard for Night Depositories, UL 771.
1.3 A safe classified as TL-15, TL-30, TL-15X6, or TL-30X6 may be constructed with an opening in the body for connection to the chute of a night depository. A safe classified as TL-15 or TL-30 that has a body constructed of solid metal may be marked to provide for an opening to be cut into the body in the field for connection to the chute of a night depository.

More info:

https://standardscatalog.ul.com/standards/en/standard_687_15

AlexinPA

Sounds like you're becoming security conscious. Good thinking.

ShadyDave

@ScarsdaleCoin said:
You can save a lot of money by buying a used safe. What state are you located? In on east coast I would recommend Empire Safe in NYC

I would reiterate what Scarsdale indicated. Speak with a local coin dealer to get their thoughts/experience and speak with an actual lock/safe dealer. Most of them have showrooms with used safes that are 1/2 the price or less than a new safe. Two pieces of advise I would give you are:

1- get a safe larger than what you think you need
2- get quotes to have the safe moved and delivered as that will probably cost more than the actual cost of the safe

Here is a pretty informative video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17VdpPiGmXs

Namvet69

So the tool attack rating is done based on how long it takes to break in based on minutes. There needs to be additional security in play cause 30 minutes is not that long. Just saying.

RogerB

Be sure to get one large enough for your Mother-in-law.

DRUNNER

Investigate the possibility of purchasing a reconditioned ATM safe. I believe they are TL15 but they are serious pieces of machinery . . . . built to have $50k sitting in them on a street corner. I bought mine for $1000 . . . and delivery was included. They come on a flatbed semi . . . are rolled in on steel bearings . . . must be stored outside (garage) . . .and end up getting sold with the house.

Drunner

Hemispherical

@DRUNNER said:
Investigate the possibility of purchasing a reconditioned ATM safe. I believe they are TL15 but they are serious pieces of machinery . . . . built to have $50k sitting in them on a street corner. I bought mine for $1000 . . . and delivery was included. They come on a flatbed semi . . . are rolled in on steel bearings . . . must be stored outside (garage) . . .and end up getting sold with the house.

Drunner

That does sound intriguing. Going to look into that. Thanks @DRUNNER.

JonBrand83

Hey knife buddy, great to see you here.

thebeav

@Namvet69 said:
So the tool attack rating is done based on how long it takes to break in based on minutes. There needs to be additional security in play cause 30 minutes is not that long. Just saying.

The guy in the video explains that is not what the rating means. A TL15 was not compromised in 15 minutes. He said it may have taken an hour......

ricko

A good safe for the home is a wise investment....as well as other security measures. Security should be 'layered'... starting with the outside of the house. Speak to a security professional.... Outside lighting, perimeter alarms, door window alarm system, motion detectors, alarm service (alarm system connected to either a company or police), safe anchored to slab.... These are just suggestions... however, a total security system is ideal. Cheers, RickO

Gluggo

Not sure what your looking for but this is what was on my door. Picked it up at your local Sportsman Warehouse Store. Hard to get a good picture with my IPhone. But it lists under UL Gun Safe 1P60. 48FD is also listed. Not sure what that means but also is listed safe for 90 Minutes under 1680 Degrees.

derryb

Forget the safe, go strait to the TL-45 dog.

JDelage

@ScarsdaleCoin said:
What state are you located?

I'm in Seattle, WA.