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Problem with older style pcgs holder inserts that tend to partially desinegrate over time.

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 23, 2019 6:08AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Has anyone besides me noticed the old style pcgs clear “gaskets” that wrap around the coin as opposed to the new ones that support the coin with “prongs” I guess you would call them. The old gaskets sometimes seem to partially disintegrate and wrap around the edge of the coin over time. The first two images are of a coin currently for sale on eBay -- being graded ms65 - while the last image is the reverse of a 1927 specimen strike buffalo nickel from the Heritage sold coins data base. That last image is especially offensive considering that it holds a 50 thousand dollar or so coin. But the problem has been fixed with the new insert
that supports the coin from four prongs.

On the second image, which is the reverse of the coin in the first image, the gasket held up well and did not degenerate much
(just very slightly in fact)
But on the first one you will notice that some of the insert even flaked off and lies near the 7 in the date of the coin and near
the right ribbon tie. Yuk!



Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was confused when I first read this, had to go back to re-read and decipher it.

    the "insert" as you call it I believe is more commonly called a "gasket" or some such thing. the "insert" is the tag with the coin information on it.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could it have happened during the insertion of the coin?

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, I've never seen one before, thanks for sharing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2019 1:12AM

    Are these disintegrating over time or as made?

    Is there any history to show it changing over time?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As made. Poor quality control but the gaskets were good enough so they used them. I've seen this on older holders when they were new.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is something I have never noticed.....will have to check some of my old slabs....Cheers, RickO

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like flashing from the injection mold process

    Collector, occasional seller

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes PCGS will jam large medals into gaskets that are too small to hold them. It has a similar effect and completely obstructs the view of the medal's rim.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Looks like flashing from the injection mold process

    That's exactly what it is. I have a brand new holder with prongs that has it too.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And some of the older ones... It is what it is, it doesn't change over time.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, and a little scary.

    I was going to speculate that exposure to heat caused this, but it seems that it was just bad QC.

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