Peace Dollar: Machine Doubling or Doubled Die? And VAM Attribution please
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There appears to be significant doubling on forehead, nose, chin and neck.
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Quite possibly fake
That might be an illusion caused by frost break and marks. I often get stuck looking at some P$ on ebay because I think I see the same thing. I think I have a thread on here about 1 such one.
There are 1921s with similar mechanical doubling.
This one is now looking like doubling to me because of the 1. The neck also looks more doubled than the ones i had seen.
@jmlanzaf said: "Quite possibly fake."
The OP posted a serious question.
Machine doubling IMO. Were this a true doubled die it would show doubling in other areas, such as the inside of the nostril than just the profile and front of the neck.
Most definitely machine doubling. Here's one in pcgs 64 that recently sold for reference.
https://ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-One-PCGS-Certified-MS64-1922-Peace-Silver-Dollar-Coin-/362620872687?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
As was my answer. The doubling on the bust on my phone looked a bit rounded.
Nice frost on that coin.
here is a 1921 I use to own with machine doubling that @rogerb mentioned above.
I was really hoping you were making a bad joke about this coin possibly being a counterfeit.
I've become highly suspicious of any doubling as it could be laser chatter. In the case of that coin, I don't think it is as uniform across the face as I would expect if it were a laser cut die. So I retract my earlier suggestion. But earlier, looking on my phone at the smaller picture, it was hard to tell.
Hopefully, you'll take some time to educate all of us about "laser chatter." Machine doubling is very common on all of our coins. I'd like to see how they compare.
Genuine, "machine doubling".
Looks like a nice coin, although the pencil eraser rub across the "E" of LIBERTY is going to negate a high grade.
Here is a Peace dollar that has a similar appearance but it is a true hub-doubled coin, 1934-D VAM 3.
Correct... it is in a details holder. I suspected machine doubling, but I might grab it anyway as a curiosity piece. Thanks everyone!
The 1921s mentioned above make interesting conversation pieces and usually draw several collectors curiosity at club meetings.
Heres another Vam 3 34-D
Great color!
I wish it was a vam 4. Adds 1500$ without color
I agree with machine doubling.... I have seen this before on Peace dollars....Cheers, RickO
Late to the party, but the OP coin is strike doubled, showing a very common manifestation of it. In general, the best place to look on Peace dollars for actual doubled dies is the olive leaves on the reverse. Being the area of finest detail on the coin, it's easiest to see there. For 1928-S, there are several obverse dies with doubling on the right side, but it is not dramatic, like the 34-D VAMs 3 and 4.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
As an aside -- the 1934-D VAM 3 Peace dollar is the lowest priced, easily seen doubled die among all of the larger US coins. 1909/8 double eagle is also priced just a little above a normal 1909.