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1977 D 1 Cent question

YQQYQQ Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just found the US cent in a Whiman book.
I noticed that this 1977 D cent has IMO, 2 different 7's.
I am curious if it is PMD, or if this did happen at the mint? (hence it would then be a mint error?)
If you lean toward PMD, how would you explain the different size of the 7, vertically and horizontally.
It appears there is some "damage" at the bottom of the 7.
But again, how was this caused and did it have any effect on the 7.
Thanks for trying to find an answer.




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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting.

    There does appear to be old coin counter/roller damage.

    Below the second 7 there is an odd “smear” of something.

    Overall, I get the impression the coin was lacquered, glued, or something.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2019 6:12AM

    Smushed 7 likely due to rolling machine. There seems to be traces of its path in the area above the date.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD.... the 7, being raised, has been 'crushed' a bit by some external force...No added value. Cheers, RickO

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD under the 7, and the last 7 seems flattened a bit too.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second 7 took a hit, ouch! Peace Roy

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damaged

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2019 8:56AM

    Ok guys, thank you for your help.
    It's not the value, I just happen to notice it and became curious.
    But is there an explanation for the last 7 being much thicker in all directions but is shorter?
    not trying to start an argument or disagreeing with you.
    And I agree it is probably PMD... but not for sure.
    looking at the damage, it does look like the rest of the coin. If it is PMD , IMO, it must have happened still at the mint or just after it went into circulation...
    thanks again
    If anyone wants the cent, please PMD and include a postage prepaid envelope.... :| lolololo

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you look closely, the 7 isn't shorter. Shadows on the big hit at the bottom only gives that illusion.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is thicker because it was crushed/smashed down.

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Smushed.

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Splatted

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ok, ok , SQUASHED... like a bad fly....(in the windshield)

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