Are this sellers toned coins all artificial? or just a killer collection?
Skrill90
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I noticed he has a lot of raw toned coins with similar toning. Ive had toning like this come back as AT in the past.
They seem to be high end coins, or series you typically don't see
Either this is a killer collection that they haven't had a chance to submit or its not MA
I am tempted to purchase some, but getting back into the hobby, I don't want to get burned and would appreciate opinions from the more experienced members here.
This toned p$ first caught my eye
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338461489&mpre=https://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-P-Peace-Dollar-1-GEM-BU-Silver-Coin-RAINBOW-TONED-BEAUTY-1583/223503327755?epid=170446093&hash=item3409d6220b:g:xxoAAOSwZcZczI9h
Then this Toned p$ that recently ended, with typical AT tell tale
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338461489&mpre=https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-P-Peace-Dollar-1-GEM-BU-Silver-Coin-STUNNING-TONED-BEAUTY-1566/223501250648?hash=item3409b67058:g:7gsAAOSwvC1cyg3q
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Nothing reputable about that bunch.
The former.
What gives it away on these pieces?
I am interested in purchasing toners, but don't want to get burned.
Better living through chemstry
Then just don't buy raw coins that look like that.
I would like to see some upside on my collection over time, so I figure buying raw toners, then slabbing them would allow me some upside compared to buying already slabbed toners.
Im pretty young and don't want to be holding a bag for 50 years lol
Just stick with graded coins right now then.
Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.
It is a good thing you are young because if you want to buy no problem raw toners you have a rather steep learning curve to climb.
There are bad toned coins in plastic out there. Many on Ebay. Learn what to look for. @Skrill90 Post a picture or question here and many members will respond quickly to you.
Other than blatant lies, falsified toning, rampant ignorance and complete disregard for common ethical values - nothing is wrong.
Unfortunately some sellers thrive on new or uninitiated collectors trying to do the exact same thing as you. For every person trying to take a short cut there are 5 people waiting in the bushes trying to relieve them of their money
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Hint: If you want to buy toners, avoid blue and brown toners. They're either AT or ugly. Many times both.
Hi . Many of these coins have the same unnatural pattern, silver to blue to maroon toning that is uneven, bubbly, edge only, and floating on the surface.
That is great that you are getting back into the hobby. But that doesn't mean that you have to start off by buying up coins. If you want to start collecting toned coins, but are not experienced or not confident in what you are doing, there is nothing wrong with studying them for a while. Knowledge is the biggest component of collecting.
If you want to buy now, keep it at a financial level where it wouldn't bother you if your purchase was a 100% mistake. In the meantime, I would suggest you look at as many toned coins that you can, online, in person at auctions, slabbed vs. not, and study the concept of thin film interference.
So basically, it's business as normal in this hobby then, huh?
Tarnish is a natural process on metals...particularly silver. As noted, however, the process can either be accelerated or duplicated through chemistry, temperature, humidity and other environmental factors. It is still tarnish...The tarnish that happens without intentional human intervention has become a valued feature among collectors, often commanding a premium price. Some pursue colorful tarnish even beyond the coin itself. Because of this potential profit, there are many artificial or accelerated tarnished coins on the market. Done well, it is indistinguishable from natural tarnish.... Though in many cases, it is obvious. I do not like tarnish. I like coins, and prefer them without environmental damage (tarnish). Cheers, RickO
Appreciate the advice, I will follow this. Also I do see how it is floating and bubbly, I will keep an eye out for that from now on.
this is a case of a few bad apples spoiling the whole bunch. the tone on a few of them looks OK but on others not so OK. seeing a bunch of coins with similar color and a similar pattern at the time by the same seller usually means that something's up and it ain't good. I believe that if this seller listed one coin and allowed it to sell that no one would say it was bad, maybe its look would be questioned by some but it would sell.
as a group like this the truth becomes known.