I can only speculate, but 1808 is one of the most common dates in the portrait series. Most specialized collectors either already own one in high grade, or were turned away by either the lack of any toning or that planchet defect. I didn't see it in-hand do I can't comment on how accurate the grade is.
Personally I thought it was an above average strike for a Ferdinand VII armored bust. I was more focused on the lot after it, though, which was an 1808 bust variety of 1809. It's not a documented one, but there were obviously multiple king punches used in both 1808 and 1809 and that one was of a scarcer variety. Didn't end up getting it due to some chatter in the field in from of the kings face I couldn't get over.
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By the way, I don't think anyone is actually working on a full PL set of these. Could be a very challenging and fun pursuit.
I agree....would be a lifetime pursuit, and I am sure there are a few dates that PL examples can't be found....but would be fun. Currently trying to find a nice semi-PL or PL Pillar Dollar from Mexico....that will be tough as most I have seen are no where near PL and most are very ugly and I am picky
@BrettPCGS I would prefer to leave this in a PCGS holder - any chance you all will consider PL designations on 8 Reales? This thing has 6 inch mirrors at least (and is clearly PL even from the TrueView). No worries if not, but figured couldn't hurt to ask - I would much rather leave top-pop coins in PCGS plastic
The only previous designated PL coin to sell sold for over 8K a few years back - was an NGC 62PL 1779-Mo. It's an amazing coin I didn't expect to part with....but I'm sure the new owner will love it.
Paging @Crazy8s. I believe I’ve seen a few PL 8 reales at your place during our chats. I don’t think people realize how many are out there that aren’t yet slabbed.
As you know, most of my collection is raw. I only submitted the Ferdinand VIIs to PCGS and a scattering of Carlos IIII to NGC to see how they grade and create a registry set I could share. Judging from the increased percentage of coins that were for sale slabbed at USMexNA this year I can see where more and more are being submitted. But most of my collector friends I correspond with see no reason to submit because there is no intention to sell.
Thanks! Was sad to let this specific one go...will have to buy a few more to make up for it . If you ever decide you need to sell any of your high end 8Rs...I would be one of the people in line buying
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Decent coin. I had a bet going whether or not it would break 2k.
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As you know it didn't quite....but in hand I wonder how it didn't. I'll likely put it in an NGC PL holder....I wish PCGS gave 8Rs the PL designation.
I can only speculate, but 1808 is one of the most common dates in the portrait series. Most specialized collectors either already own one in high grade, or were turned away by either the lack of any toning or that planchet defect. I didn't see it in-hand do I can't comment on how accurate the grade is.
Personally I thought it was an above average strike for a Ferdinand VII armored bust. I was more focused on the lot after it, though, which was an 1808 bust variety of 1809. It's not a documented one, but there were obviously multiple king punches used in both 1808 and 1809 and that one was of a scarcer variety. Didn't end up getting it due to some chatter in the field in from of the kings face I couldn't get over.
8 Reales Madness Collection
By the way, I don't think anyone is actually working on a full PL set of these. Could be a very challenging and fun pursuit.
8 Reales Madness Collection
That's a nice one!
You have some cool videos on Youtube.
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Thanks buddy!
I agree....would be a lifetime pursuit, and I am sure there are a few dates that PL examples can't be found....but would be fun. Currently trying to find a nice semi-PL or PL Pillar Dollar from Mexico....that will be tough as most I have seen are no where near PL and most are very ugly and I am picky
@BrettPCGS I would prefer to leave this in a PCGS holder - any chance you all will consider PL designations on 8 Reales? This thing has 6 inch mirrors at least (and is clearly PL even from the TrueView). No worries if not, but figured couldn't hurt to ask - I would much rather leave top-pop coins in PCGS plastic
Senator32 ....did you cross your coin ?
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I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
I put it in an auction to see what it would go for...and got moon money
No, I bought it in PCGS and got the PL on the holder once they started designating it.
Good work, buyer is BURIED
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Wow! Well played, sir.
My current "Box of 20"
The only previous designated PL coin to sell sold for over 8K a few years back - was an NGC 62PL 1779-Mo. It's an amazing coin I didn't expect to part with....but I'm sure the new owner will love it.
Even with the designation - by at least $4k
8 Reales Madness Collection
Im going to try this for PL
Latin American Collection
Paging @Crazy8s. I believe I’ve seen a few PL 8 reales at your place during our chats. I don’t think people realize how many are out there that aren’t yet slabbed.
As you know, most of my collection is raw. I only submitted the Ferdinand VIIs to PCGS and a scattering of Carlos IIII to NGC to see how they grade and create a registry set I could share. Judging from the increased percentage of coins that were for sale slabbed at USMexNA this year I can see where more and more are being submitted. But most of my collector friends I correspond with see no reason to submit because there is no intention to sell.
Senator32, that is a really nicely struck 08. Great pickup
Thanks! Was sad to let this specific one go...will have to buy a few more to make up for it
. If you ever decide you need to sell any of your high end 8Rs...I would be one of the people in line buying 