Oooh, I happen to need that one for my 2.8 screw registry set? How much time did it take to figure out it was a 2.8 and not a 2.7 or 2.9? Did you pay extra to authenticate the variety? Is good eyesight no longer a requirement for employee candidates at the mint? Never saw a weirder slab in my life.
@lava said:
Oooh, I happen to need that one for my 2.8 screw registry set? How much time did it take to figure out it was a 2.8 and not a 2.7 or 2.9? Did you pay extra to authenticate the variety? Is good eyesight no longer a requirement for employee candidates at the mint? Never saw a weirder slab in my life.
@Broadstruck said:
How did trace copper plating get on the reverse of the screw?
Several members have asked this. That was my initial reaction also. After thinking it out, the answer is easy, There was copper residue on the dies from striking cents. This was transferred on to the screw and is a + that the thing was struck at a mint.
No pressure grading it because it won’t have an effect on the price. Only thing that matters is genuine vs not. Though is seems a candidate for the “PL” designation??
@kbbpll said:
That's awesome.
No offense, but the "+" kind of cracks me up.
How do you actually grade something like that?
They have a grading set they can refer to.
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I’m kind of laughing out loud that it received a plus grade.
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We will sticker double dies/RPMs/off-metals etc. where the coin is still pretty much a whole coin.
Since we are giving a "State Farm Double Check" on the grade, it doesn't make sense to sticker something like this screw since no one really knows how they grade them
OK , this may sound like a lame excuse, as its a contained two in one printing fact.
YES a screw fell into the production process and wala an expencive screw(ahmmmsh).
the other part is when that Kink was struck youcan rest asure the pressman was right on it,
Which brings up the subject of spelling in my posts. Yes I can hear a nat swimming in my ink if it so desired,
But never had to wright up a report about it ..Spell check left 45 yrs ago.
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@Justacommeman said:
I’m kind of laughing out loud that it received a plus grade.
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Proof that the boys in the grading room have a sense of humor.
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@kbbpll said:
That's awesome.
No offense, but the "+" kind of cracks me up.
How do you actually grade something like that?
The way I grade errors and oddities as this is to only (98-99% of the time unless problem on the rest of the piece) grade the portion struck by the die. Thus, a screw with no friction, PMD, contact marks, etc. will easily be "gem."
From the image above, that side looks MS-64 due to the spots and stains.
@segoja said:
I graded it MS65, but I guess I need a little help grading errors Maybe it was the lack of paint across the head of the screw???
Spots preclude MS65. Look at the slot on the head. The best this could be is 64, and then it was given a + for coolness. You think I'm joking, but I'd bet that a good measure of tongue-in-cheekery went into the grade.
Oh man, I have got to show some of my non-coin collecting buddies! I have to agree with the questionable "+", but I would imagine that grading hardware is tougher than coinage.
@Justacommeman said:
I’m kind of laughing out loud that it received a plus grade.
m
That is hilarious!
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Without a CAC sticker, how can we be sure that it's properly graded?
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So, what is the market price for a small fraction of a Lincoln Cent that gets stamped onto a screw? And yeah, it almost seems like the graders had some fun with the 64+ grade assignment.
OK , this may sound like a lame excuse, as its a contained two in one printing fact.
YES a screw fell into the production process and wala an expencive screw(ahmmmsh).
part one is when that
foreign object was struck you can rest asure the press operator was right on it,
Which brings up the subject of spelling in my posts. Yes I can hear a nat swimming in my ink well,
But never had to wright up a report about it ..Spell check left 45 yrs ago.
ITS VERY COOL> and great wow ....Armor Screws : We have the midas touch, at a store near you
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Oooh, I happen to need that one for my 2.8 screw registry set? How much time did it take to figure out it was a 2.8 and not a 2.7 or 2.9? Did you pay extra to authenticate the variety? Is good eyesight no longer a requirement for employee candidates at the mint? Never saw a weirder slab in my life.
2.8 g. = weight
That's awesome.
No offense, but the "+" kind of cracks me up.
There is an image, it just takes extra time due to the unusual shape and dimensions of the coin.
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Several members have asked this. That was my initial reaction also. After thinking it out, the answer is easy, There was copper residue on the dies from striking cents. This was transferred on to the screw and is a + that the thing was struck at a mint.
How do you actually grade something like that?
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He who knows he has enough is rich.
No pressure grading it because it won’t have an effect on the price. Only thing that matters is genuine vs not. Though is seems a candidate for the “PL” designation??
They have a grading set they can refer to.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Same thoughts here.
Was the plus for eye appeal or is it a high end 64 screw?
PCGS and their inconsistent grading. Easily a 66!
I thought I saw scratches from a screwdriver, so it's only AU, except they likely occurred before striking so...(LOL!)
I’m kind of laughing out loud that it received a plus grade.
m
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Need a struck washer to match
I'm reserving judgement until we see if it stickers
Congrats!
In theory it could have a QA Check sticker, however, we do not sticker these types of errors.
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Do you sticker other errors?
We will sticker double dies/RPMs/off-metals etc. where the coin is still pretty much a whole coin.
Since we are giving a "State Farm Double Check" on the grade, it doesn't make sense to sticker something like this screw since no one really knows how they grade them
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OK , this may sound like a lame excuse, as its a contained two in one printing fact.
YES a screw fell into the production process and wala an expencive screw(ahmmmsh).
the other part is when that Kink was struck youcan rest asure the pressman was right on it,
Which brings up the subject of spelling in my posts. Yes I can hear a nat swimming in my ink if it so desired,
But never had to wright up a report about it ..Spell check left 45 yrs ago.
ITS VERY COOL> and great wow ....Armor Screws : We have the midas touch, at a store near you
Proof that the boys in the grading room have a sense of humor.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Plus grading as a whole just when to hell from the damaged screw of a handbasket
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The way I grade errors and oddities as this is to only (98-99% of the time unless problem on the rest of the piece) grade the portion struck by the die. Thus, a screw with no friction, PMD, contact marks, etc. will easily be "gem."
From the image above, that side looks MS-64 due to the spots and stains.
Spots preclude MS65. Look at the slot on the head. The best this could be is 64, and then it was given a + for coolness. You think I'm joking, but I'd bet that a good measure of tongue-in-cheekery went into the grade.
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Oh man, I have got to show some of my non-coin collecting buddies! I have to agree with the questionable "+", but I would imagine that grading hardware is tougher than coinage.
I tried the link for PCGS # E11111 (https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/detail/11111/64) and it directs me to the coinfacts main page.
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That is hilarious!
It's neat, but since I've been looking for a Phillips, I'll have to pass.
Well, whomever buys this will need the phillips head screw to complete the set.
Now, surely that would deserve a plus. Torx would go to NGC, because only they give out stars.
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Cool. How much?
Without a CAC sticker, how can we be sure that it's properly graded?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
So, what is the market price for a small fraction of a Lincoln Cent that gets stamped onto a screw? And yeah, it almost seems like the graders had some fun with the 64+ grade assignment.
very cool piece. congrats on getting it in plastic
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Should have received a "-".
I thought only Phillips head errors were eligible for the "+."
Made it to there Instagram page. Brings you right here
OK , this may sound like a lame excuse, as its a contained two in one printing fact.
YES a screw fell into the production process and wala an expencive screw(ahmmmsh).
part one is when that
foreign object was struck you can rest asure the press operator was right on it,
Which brings up the subject of spelling in my posts. Yes I can hear a nat swimming in my ink well,
But never had to wright up a report about it ..Spell check left 45 yrs ago.
ITS VERY COOL> and great wow ....Armor Screws : We have the midas touch, at a store near you