Pictures can be very deceptive due to lighting and angles.... I hesitate to judge many coin tarnish colors based on pictures....If that coin were 'in hand' and looked like that, I would judge it to be AT...likely cleaned in the past. Cheers, RickO
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
@Insider2 said:
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
It matters if the poster (or someone else) wants to learn.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Insider2 said:
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
It matters if the poster (or someone else) wants to learn.
My point is: The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin! For awhile "Blue" was the new $$$$$ on copper.
@Insider2 said:
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
It matters if the poster (or someone else) wants to learn.
My point is: The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin! For awhile "Blue" was the new $$$$$ on copper.
@Insider2 said:
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
It matters if the poster (or someone else) wants to learn.
My point is: The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin! For awhile "Blue" was the new $$$$$ on copper.
Regardless, do you think the subject coin's color is original?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld asked: "Regardless, do you think the subject coin's color is original?"
Insider answers...again.... "The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin!"
Furthermore, if there is no evidence of improper cleaning, I know at least one place where it would be straight graded. I also know at least one person who would buy it or sell it as a natural coin (either as is or with the blue removed) and sleep like a baby.
not wanting to join in the fracas or take sides I will only say that in the OP's picture I don't see blue, only pink/purple. to me that tends to be a "tell" for AT. also, not wanting to re-ignite the Blue-Rooster debate I will only say that I am not in agreement that the subject color can be removed while leaving the rest of the coin/color looking natural again.
@keets said:
**The "blue" color is natural enough **.
not wanting to join in the fracas or take sides I will only say that in the OP's picture I don't see blue, only pink/purple. to me that tends to be a "tell" for AT. also, not wanting to re-ignite the Blue-Rooster debate I will only say that I am not in agreement that the subject color can be removed while leaving the rest of the coin/color looking natural again.
You see it. Check out the feather tips and the Indian's cheek. We call it blue/purple as it often changes in the light.
@chiniu67 said:
is there any test for cking the color on copper, is there suppose to be a color sequence on copper or silver toned morgans????
thanks so much for your help
@chiniu67 said:
is there any test for cking the color on copper, is there suppose to be a color sequence on copper or silver toned morgans????
thanks so much for your help
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Purple usually makes me suspicious but on copper I'm not sure.
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The color does not look original to me.
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@chiniu67 Found an old thread by @Sunnywood that explains the color progression.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/708296/towards-an-understanding-of-the-color-progression-on-toned-coins
Wow, that Sunnywood thread is amazing! I have learned something new today, and I was even able to understand some of what he was saying.
Great, now I want to find toned Morgans to buy...
Pictures can be very deceptive due to lighting and angles.... I hesitate to judge many coin tarnish colors based on pictures....If that coin were 'in hand' and looked like that, I would judge it to be AT...likely cleaned in the past. Cheers, RickO
AT.
What does it matter? If you like it keep it as is. If you don't, you can change it back to RB in seconds. Then the question becomes the same, is it NT or AT. And again, in this case it does not matter because you can turn it blue again in seconds. All this has been explained in other discussions.
It matters if the poster (or someone else) wants to learn.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
My point is: The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin! For awhile "Blue" was the new $$$$$ on copper.
Regardless, do you think the subject coin's color is original?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld asked: "Regardless, do you think the subject coin's color is original?"
Insider answers...again.... "The "blue" color is natural enough as it can happen without the hand of man applying anything to the coin!"
Furthermore, if there is no evidence of improper cleaning, I know at least one place where it would be straight graded. I also know at least one person who would buy it or sell it as a natural coin (either as is or with the blue removed) and sleep like a baby.
The blue color is natural enough.
not wanting to join in the fracas or take sides I will only say that in the OP's picture I don't see blue, only pink/purple. to me that tends to be a "tell" for AT. also, not wanting to re-ignite the Blue-Rooster debate I will only say that I am not in agreement that the subject color can be removed while leaving the rest of the coin/color looking natural again.
You see it. Check out the feather tips and the Indian's cheek. We call it blue/purple as it often changes in the light.
Overall the color looks off to me. I vote AT
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I’m no expert with silver toning but I’m leaning towards AT. Just doesn’t look right.
with the Morgan it sort of looks OK, like it spent a lot of time in an album.
Natural Album Toning
Didn't Whitman have blue albums ?
Seen to remeber putting pennies in them and using a pencil erasure to make them shiney.
I agree,Natural Album Toning
The Morgan indeed looks like natural album toning...
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Looks like typical album toning to me.
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