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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 2:44PM

    @specialist said:
    can't u read the holder??? :o

    im trying to learn to grade by photos only- i thought I had it down pat.

    clearly not :s

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 4:49AM

    Edit for live auction.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow that's nice!

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 2:55PM

    @joebb21 said:

    @specialist said:
    can't u read the holder??? :o

    im trying to learn to grade by photos only- i thought I had it down pat.

    clearly not :s

    You ask if it is correctly graded. WHAT DO YOU THINK? You've got four stars here.
    My first impression from your post is you disagree with the grade. If so, let's read why so we can all discuss the opinions. :)

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 2:58PM

    Holder says MS66, looks nice

    Pcgs MV $21,500

    Go for it if super deal 4u

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  • EdtheloraxEdthelorax Posts: 229 ✭✭✭

    The reverse looks 66 but what is going on in the obverse fields? especially above the eagle. The pictures do not display 66 eye appeal to me. But they are only pictures. It looks like it was holdered last year. After you buy it, don't crack it IMHO.

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 3:06PM

    Not my series but 66 doesn't seem too egregious to me.

    Admittedly at first glance it looks like slight discoloring on the bow on the rev that I cant explain along with that obv chatter.

    I'll bet the luster in hand will make you overlook whatever you're seeing in the pics.

    Ymmv.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 4:48PM

    Not 100% certain if I even own any flying eagle cents so what do I know? MS66? Seems awfully generous to me. Why doesn't it have one of those fancy 3rd party stickers? lol

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You don't find them with blazing luster very often. Still waiting for the OP's opinion. :)

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not my series but it looks to be a tad generous to me.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just focus on the label when you bid ;)

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    Just focus on the label when you bid ;)

    Exactly BS!
    Where the heck is the...……………….

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 10:08PM

    When you come to think of it, I think the answer to the following is what the OP is looking for:

    There are 34 in this grade, none finer (21 by PCGS, 13 by NGC). At this price point of a five figure coin, one would think they’ve all been submitted to CAC, yet only 9 merited a sticker (yes, some of those 34 might be duplicate submissions of the same coin). So the question that the OP might be asking is, why does this coin not merit a CAC? Is it due to the “chatter” above the eagle on the obverse? Or the carbon spots/flecks on each side of the date? Or is the strike a bit weak on the reverse for a 66? I still think it’s a lovely coin.

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    Just focus on the label when you bid ;)

    Let's just wait, I noticed it the first time I looked at the thread,

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can I quote myself?

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't wait.
    What the heck is the color designation!
    :D

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me, most MS-66 Lincolns look overgraded, compared to silver and nickel issues….And I've looked at precious few Mint State Flying Eagles.

    I've adjusted my expectations on Lincolns. If high grade FE were my goal, (they're not), I'd have to wait to see a whole lot more to determine if my expectations need to be adjusted.

    Which basically mean.....I'm no help. ;)

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Red is bad, brown is good.
    The coin that joebb21 posted is bad in my book, unless you like a 100+ year old red copper coin that has no business being in a PCGS 66 holder.

    I'm surprised that some of the other members did not notice.

  • kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    Relative to every other MS66 in Heritage Archives I'd have to say that this one gets the brown sticker. The TrueView does paint a slightly more flattering picture.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kbbpll said:
    Relative to every other MS66 in Heritage Archives I'd have to say that this one gets the brown sticker. The TrueView does paint a slightly more flattering pic.

    I did not look at the TrueView, it got a Red or RB 66 designation from PCGS?
    Ain't even a 66 in my book at whatever color they grade it at.

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 11:54PM

    @Raybo said:

    @kbbpll said:
    Relative to every other MS66 in Heritage Archives I'd have to say that this one gets the brown sticker. The TrueView does paint a slightly more flattering pic.

    I did not look at the TrueView, it got a Red or RB 66 designation from PCGS?
    Ain't even a 66 in my book at whatever color they grade it at.

    They don't designate Red/RB/BN on the copper nickel cents. That includes the early Indians.

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  • kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:

    @kbbpll said:
    Relative to every other MS66 in Heritage Archives I'd have to say that this one gets the brown sticker. The TrueView does paint a slightly more flattering pic.

    I did not look at the TrueView, it got a Red or RB 66 designation from PCGS?
    Ain't even a 66 in my book at whatever color they grade it at.

    I just realized that my comment can be misinterpreted. "Brown sticker" is a joking reference to CAC giving it a "low for the grade" (which they obviously don't do), not a reference to a TPG color designation.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 12:58AM

    Removed since the auction hasn't closed yet.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 12:59AM

    @BryceM said:
    I’d like to see it in-hand. My impression is that the upper obverse chatter is very overblown by the photo technique, but that’s just a guess. Grading from photos is never foolproof. A savvy photographer can accentuate or totally conceal huge problems.

    Zoom in to the TV. I don't think HA's photography was that bad for this one.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 5:53AM

    Seeing this piece does make me feel more comfortable about my purchase of this Flyer which is graded MS-65. I always wonder about these coins. How many marks are too many for the MS-65 grade?


    This one came home in a body bag when I sent it PCGS, I think for AT, but it was almost 20 years ago. Needless to say I disagreed but had to knickle under. NGC graded it MS-64. There is a lot of luster on this one.


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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones, both are real nice coins, with what looks like strong strikes and high luster. Beautiful! Enjoy!

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 6:26AM

    I bought the 1858 from Stacks' retail when I was in my 30s. It was the last type coin I needed to complete my one cent coin type collection.

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  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks solid MS65 but Flying Eagles aren't my series.

    Luster, Strike, eye appeal. Maybe a few too many ticks but each series is graded different.

    A few spots but I am being picky.

    I quit grading by 2 dimensional image but I have no real issues.

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019 7:33AM

    Checking CoinFacts there are 25 graded MS66. Most all of them have more eye appeal than this coin. Not much color left. I rather like my 1857 much more........

    Not bad for a 61????????

    OINK

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