@topstuf said:
It's pointless to argue shipping decisions if their insurance specifies how to ship.
True, but you always have the option to ship your way and use USPS/carrier insurance. As long as I'm made whole that's all that matters.
Registered insurance maxes well before the $300,000 value of the OP coin.
Yes, that's true, but you pay an extra fee for extra security which could include following the final delivery in an unmarked vehicle. Essentially they would guarantee delivery.
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
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Every time I ship something, I have to walk through a bout of anxiety and fear that I'll have to deal with the fall out if something goes wrong. I tell myself its just part of the hobby and that I could recover somehow if I got pinched. A quick last min review at the counter to make sure I did everything thoroughly and took proper notes, etc and just roll the dice.
I always send a message saying I received a coin too, regardless if the sender gets a digital confirmation. As a courtesy to elevate the anxiety the sender is surly grappling with as well. That the coin arrived at home plate safe.
I'm hoping for a good outcome for the OP on this thread.
@topstuf said:
It's pointless to argue shipping decisions if their insurance specifies how to ship.
True, but you always have the option to ship your way and use USPS/carrier insurance. As long as I'm made whole that's all that matters.
Registered insurance maxes well before the $300,000 value of the OP coin.
Yes, that's true, but you pay an extra fee for extra security which could include following the final delivery in an unmarked vehicle. Essentially they would guarantee delivery.
"essentially" would concern me. Better to have the item fully insured and follow the underwriters requirements.
@topstuf said:
It's pointless to argue shipping decisions if their insurance specifies how to ship.
True, but you always have the option to ship your way and use USPS/carrier insurance. As long as I'm made whole that's all that matters.
Registered insurance maxes well before the $300,000 value of the OP coin.
Yes, that's true, but you pay an extra fee for extra security which could include following the final delivery in an unmarked vehicle. Essentially they would guarantee delivery.
"essentially" would concern me. Better to have the item fully insured and follow the underwriters requirements.
The use of essentially was my choice, not the word of the RM guy at the PO. IIRC the Hope diamond was sent by registered mail at one time. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances.
@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
@topstuf said:
It's pointless to argue shipping decisions if their insurance specifies how to ship.
True, but you always have the option to ship your way and use USPS/carrier insurance. As long as I'm made whole that's all that matters.
Registered insurance maxes well before the $300,000 value of the OP coin.
Yes, that's true, but you pay an extra fee for extra security which could include following the final delivery in an unmarked vehicle. Essentially they would guarantee delivery.
"essentially" would concern me. Better to have the item fully insured and follow the underwriters requirements.
The use of essentially was my choice, not the word of the RM guy at the PO. IIRC the Hope diamond was sent by registered mail at one time. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances.
I use registered but I am not in the league of the branch mint Dollar. Have had concerns recently as two shipments took nearly 14 days each to deliver.
I do believe there are more damn thieves working for the postal service that granny goose has potato chips. This is a regular deal almost every week. It’s far past time for the USPS to put in security cameras everywhere in the sorting department, so on and so forth. It’s a chronic problem and it’s making me sick to my stomach.
Coins as this one that is being shipped SHOULD be sent registered mail. That way anyone that touches the damn thing has got to sign for it and it gets locked up at night.
I am so sorry for the loss of this magnificent piece. I also agree it’ll show up and when it does i hope like hell it gets traced back to the damn thief.
I’m hoping for the best, Joe
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@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
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@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
@specialist said:
Yes, that is the coin. I do not know how to do images. Thank you for posting it
It was sent over night express mail with every done the way our insurance carriers require. It is our first loss in the 35+ tears we have been in biz.
Ah man, I'll keep my eyes peeled for ya Laura and also let my contacts in the Chicago area know to be on the lookout. My God. All these mega coins being stolen recently has to he more than just simple coincidence. Hope you get her back.
Sorry to hear about this. Yeah, the coin will be covered by insurance, but I'm fairly confident that everyone involved in the transaction would much rather see the coin than insurance money. I'm hopeful that it turns up somewhere, unharmed by this unfortunate misadventure.
@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
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@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
Yes, just for the package, not the slab, and mainly for those next-day shipments that go above USPS available insurance or are irreplaceable items. Just return after received and use over again for such shipments.
Not sure it's viable. Must be some flaw in the idea I am missing.
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@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
Yes, just for the package, not the slab, and mainly for those next-day shipments that go above USPS available insurance or are irreplaceable items. Just return after received and use over again for such shipments.
Not sure it's viable. Must be some flaw in the idea I am missing.
It is probably done. But so few coins would require it.
@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
Yes, just for the package, not the slab, and mainly for those next-day shipments that go above USPS available insurance or are irreplaceable items. Just return after received and use over again for such shipments.
Not sure it's viable. Must be some flaw in the idea I am missing.
@joeykoins said:
Like so many replys, That's terrible! What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
Yes, just for the package, not the slab, and mainly for those next-day shipments that go above USPS available insurance or are irreplaceable items. Just return after received and use over again for such shipments.
Not sure it's viable. Must be some flaw in the idea I am missing.
To those that want a tracking chip in the slab, would that not enable a thief to locate a coin in your house, or bank safe deposit box, safe or other location? Would you want somebody to have that capability? Would you want an unscrupulous seller to have the capability to one day locate and "retrieve" said coin, no matter how many times it has been resold?
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@topstuf said:
Jeez, the stuff I'm reading.
Am I the only one who saw Laura's post that her INSURANCE COMPANY decides how to ship?
If she ships as they require, she will be covered.
I highly doubt the insurance company is going to be so complacent about recovery that they would allow the coin to be auctioned by the state unless that's what they would want.
While Laura may have done everything right-there are other points to consider.
First and foremost- a coin that was treasured and loved by her and so many others has gone missing.
2nd- While the shipping may have been done correctly and to procedure, they might decide to raise premiums significantly for next year. A $300,000 right off by the insurance company is not one they are going to let slide easily.
3rd- While an investigation is made into the disappearance, Somebody is out the money. Claims of this caliber might take a good deal of time to pay (perhaps 30-90 days?)
I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
@MilesWaits said:
I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
The claim won’t be made with the postal service so that’s gonna be a little hard...
@topstuf said:
Jeez, the stuff I'm reading.
Am I the only one who saw Laura's post that her INSURANCE COMPANY decides how to ship?
If she ships as they require, she will be covered.
I highly doubt the insurance company is going to be so complacent about recovery that they would allow the coin to be auctioned by the state unless that's what they would want.
If/when the coin is recovered the insurance company owns it. What state is going to auction it? They would probably contact the shipper and want to exchange it for the $300K or whatever they shelled out to settle the claim.
@MilesWaits said:
I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
The claim won’t be made with the postal service so that’s gonna be a little hard...
From the original post:
Much to our horror, after less then a week, the Postal Inspectors quit seeking it and declared it stolen.
@MilesWaits said:
I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
The claim won’t be made with the postal service so that’s gonna be a little hard...
From the original post:
Much to our horror, after less then a week, the Postal Inspectors quit seeking it and declared it stolen.
@topstuf said:
Jeez, the stuff I'm reading.
Am I the only one who saw Laura's post that her INSURANCE COMPANY decides how to ship?
If she ships as they require, she will be covered.
I highly doubt the insurance company is going to be so complacent about recovery that they would allow the coin to be auctioned by the state unless that's what they would want.
If/when the coin is recovered the insurance company owns it. What state is going to auction it? They would probably contact the shipper and want to exchange it for the $300K or whatever they shelled out to settle the claim.
For sure. $300K can be replaced but that coin is unique and cannot be. I'm sure that the rightful owner would much rather have the coin.
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Wow. That's completely inexcusable. It's suspicious that they're so willing to just pay out the insurance. It's like there's a dirty little secret or something.
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@MilesWaits said:
I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
The claim won’t be made with the postal service so that’s gonna be a little hard...
From the original post:
Much to our horror, after less then a week, the Postal Inspectors quit seeking it and declared it stolen.
@topstuf said:
Jeez, the stuff I'm reading.
Am I the only one who saw Laura's post that her INSURANCE COMPANY decides how to ship?
If she ships as they require, she will be covered.
I highly doubt the insurance company is going to be so complacent about recovery that they would allow the coin to be auctioned by the state unless that's what they would want.
If/when the coin is recovered the insurance company owns it. What state is going to auction it? They would probably contact the shipper and want to exchange it for the $300K or whatever they shelled out to settle the claim.
For sure. $300K can be replaced but that coin is unique and cannot be. I'm sure that the rightful owner would much rather have the coin.
If it's found before the claim is paid the buyer will get it. If found after the claim is paid the disposition of the coin will be up to the new owner which/who would be the insurer.
@ms70 said:
Wow. That's completely inexcusable. It's suspicious that they're so willing to just pay out the insurance. It's like there's a dirty little secret or something.
They have no skin in the game liability-wise. The USPS aint payin out the insurance. They did not meet their timely delivery guarantee so they gave the $100 back.
When a $500 coin I sold 15 years ago got lost insured with USPS I dealt with the postal inspector for like 7 weeks. Then finally considered lost and they paid out at about the 9-12 week point as I recall.
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Yes, that's true, but you pay an extra fee for extra security which could include following the final delivery in an unmarked vehicle. Essentially they would guarantee delivery.
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Anyone know if the USPS is self insured or if they use an outside company?
Like so many replys, That's terrible!
What an amazing Morgan. So sorry. I truly haven't read all posts but they should come up with a "tracking device" a chip. Similar to the chip they place in dogs to help locate them. It should be in the actual slab. It will become an option for the owner. Even to pay some sort of premium. Maybe, our host will think about this? Hope your coin turns up.Good Luck-joey
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I always send a message saying I received a coin too, regardless if the sender gets a digital confirmation. As a courtesy to elevate the anxiety the sender is surly grappling with as well. That the coin arrived at home plate safe.
I'm hoping for a good outcome for the OP on this thread.
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Guess I shouldn't be TOO embarrassed, since (true) Branch Mint proofs are pretty rare....and I'll never hold one to begin with.
Pretty hard for a thief to sell it for anything near what it's worth, that's for sure.
"essentially" would concern me. Better to have the item fully insured and follow the underwriters requirements.
The use of essentially was my choice, not the word of the RM guy at the PO. IIRC the Hope diamond was sent by registered mail at one time. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances.
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You're assuming people actually read the posts rather than just posting whatever pops into their head.
They are morons if they use an outside company.
Such a chip would be worthless. Once you crack the coin out of the holder, the tracking device is gone. And you'd have to crack that coin out because it has a serial number otherwise.
The "tracking device" that they use on dogs has to be scanned in hand. It is not a transmitter that can be traced.
That said, you could put a transmitter in the box itself. But, unless you are following the package, I'm not sure what good that would do you as you would not be in a position to intercede.
It would be silly to put a transmitter in the slab because it would need a power source and unless freshly slabbed would no longer be transmitting.
I am very sorry to hear this, and I hope the coin is found and returned to its rightful owner.
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I use registered but I am not in the league of the branch mint Dollar. Have had concerns recently as two shipments took nearly 14 days each to deliver.
It is not 1955 and I am not Harry Winston.
I do believe there are more damn thieves working for the postal service that granny goose has potato chips. This is a regular deal almost every week. It’s far past time for the USPS to put in security cameras everywhere in the sorting department, so on and so forth. It’s a chronic problem and it’s making me sick to my stomach.
Coins as this one that is being shipped SHOULD be sent registered mail. That way anyone that touches the damn thing has got to sign for it and it gets locked up at night.
I am so sorry for the loss of this magnificent piece. I also agree it’ll show up and when it does i hope like hell it gets traced back to the damn thief.
I’m hoping for the best, Joe
Damn that's a cool coin. I hope it resurfaces as 'misplaced' rather than stolen. Damn!
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True, what you say. Except, If the tracking device keeps a live transmission then they could at least show some address where it end up say, before the thief would even consider cracking it out. If he even does? Remember, most thieves can really be stupid! LOL
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I think you underestimate the power requirements and the size of a device to do that.
Ah man, I'll keep my eyes peeled for ya Laura and also let my contacts in the Chicago area know to be on the lookout. My God. All these mega coins being stolen recently has to he more than just simple coincidence. Hope you get her back.
Sorry to hear about this. Yeah, the coin will be covered by insurance, but I'm fairly confident that everyone involved in the transaction would much rather see the coin than insurance money. I'm hopeful that it turns up somewhere, unharmed by this unfortunate misadventure.
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i have never lost a package through usps yet, but still worry about it when i send a package worth over 1 k.
what a pisser and total bummer.
Wonder if a smart phone could be included and rigged to continually track location and maybe also trigger uploading video if exposed to light, indicating package was opened.
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You could definitely put one in the package. I just don't think you would want to put one in the slab
I hope for the best, but when I hear Chicago, I just shake my head.
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Yes, just for the package, not the slab, and mainly for those next-day shipments that go above USPS available insurance or are irreplaceable items. Just return after received and use over again for such shipments.
Not sure it's viable. Must be some flaw in the idea I am missing.
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It is probably done. But so few coins would require it.
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With the major > @jmlanzaf said:
That seems like a good idea for those few coins worth using it with in light of the major thefts that have been happening in shipments.
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To those that want a tracking chip in the slab, would that not enable a thief to locate a coin in your house, or bank safe deposit box, safe or other location? Would you want somebody to have that capability? Would you want an unscrupulous seller to have the capability to one day locate and "retrieve" said coin, no matter how many times it has been resold?
Hopefully it will be returned.
Very sorry to hear.
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While Laura may have done everything right-there are other points to consider.
First and foremost- a coin that was treasured and loved by her and so many others has gone missing.
2nd- While the shipping may have been done correctly and to procedure, they might decide to raise premiums significantly for next year. A $300,000 right off by the insurance company is not one they are going to let slide easily.
3rd- While an investigation is made into the disappearance, Somebody is out the money. Claims of this caliber might take a good deal of time to pay (perhaps 30-90 days?)
Yikes, I'd have to crack and dip that sucker. Looks nothing like the TV
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I hope it’s found going to be hard to move that one with out it popping up on the radar
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I could see people with the Postal Service, as this claim is being made, shaking their collective and heads saying “you really shipped that valuable of an item with us overnight?” ...As they have a good laugh.
The claim won’t be made with the postal service so that’s gonna be a little hard...
If/when the coin is recovered the insurance company owns it. What state is going to auction it? They would probably contact the shipper and want to exchange it for the $300K or whatever they shelled out to settle the claim.
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From the original post:
Much to our horror, after less then a week, the Postal Inspectors quit seeking it and declared it stolen.
Ok, not an insurance claim..
For sure. $300K can be replaced but that coin is unique and cannot be. I'm sure that the rightful owner would much rather have the coin.
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Much to my surprise, after 4 days the PO paid us the $100.00 fee and said they was done. I have never heard of postal inspectors quitting.
Today we reached out to higher ups in the PO system to see if we could shake the tree. Will know in a couple of days I guess.
I really hope we can find it unharmed before our insurance claim is paid.
Thank you everyone for your concerns.
I’d still put In the claim for the $100 just to make USPS have some accountability. More about the principle.
Wow. That's completely inexcusable. It's suspicious that they're so willing to just pay out the insurance. It's like there's a dirty little secret or something.
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The USPS carried it, but smoeone else insured it.
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If it's found before the claim is paid the buyer will get it. If found after the claim is paid the disposition of the coin will be up to the new owner which/who would be the insurer.
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They have no skin in the game liability-wise. The USPS aint payin out the insurance. They did not meet their timely delivery guarantee so they gave the $100 back.
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When a $500 coin I sold 15 years ago got lost insured with USPS I dealt with the postal inspector for like 7 weeks. Then finally considered lost and they paid out at about the 9-12 week point as I recall.