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Is Dell Loy Hansen unique in how public his collecting is?
Zoins
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With all the collectors out there, I can't think of any who are so avidly followed for every change to their collection.
Is Dell Loy unique in being so public with his collecting and having so many followers?
Is the consistency in PCGS TrueViews and Registry Sets part of what makes this possible?
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Unique in the public following, yes. Unique in having his sets open, no
Most folks don't want to be known for spending the money Hansen is.
WS
Which is a reason he may be unique, at least for both being public and having a following.
Good point. I wonder why the other ones don’t have as much of a following?
Because Currin didn’t maintain a thread on them?
Hmmmm.... I've been pondering Facebook for my collecting.
but "topstuf watch" has no panache.
Certainly the thread helps but I'm guessing there's some underlying reason why a thread was created for Hansen but not others. Perhaps @Currin could chime in on why he did one for Hansen?
There aren't too many who have declared that they want to replicate what ELiasberg did.
That's something interesting to follow.
Not every one cares to share their collections until they are finished and even then they don't care. I have several big people who are that way. Mr Simpson only has about 60% of his massive collection posted-and its only because PCGS wanted it years ago. NO active sets of his are posted.
You don't have to be public with your set to find the coins. In fact, being public might find you the coin-but for sure will cost you more. Plus, there are real security risks.
I am more favorable to the collectors who keep their sets closed until finished.
Besides Delloy will never replace Eliasberg-he has to do patterns. Sorry, he can't win there.
Why people follow this stuff? I guess they are bored.
Its going to be pretty boring at the PCGS Awards Luncheon when he dominates all series/sets, etc.
WS
He seemed to have a reasonable amount but not too many in 2018:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1004851/the-most-1-registry-sets-a-new-way-to-compete/p1
Are there any other collectors that are dominant in multiple sets?
Of course there are
Zoins..Thanks for asking the question. The Hansen Watch will have an one year anniversary feature in a few days. Yes, don't a year go by fast. I plan address this question and share some additional personal thoughts. So, stay tune and "watch" for a response on the "Hansen Watch" tread.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Here are some multiple set winners from 2018.
I wonder how many of these are being built by Legend?
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/awards/2018
Below, the first number is gold sets and the second number is platinum sets.
Simpson and two others on that list. I will not say the names-one has his set closed. Never looked at the other.
WOW-what set is CNN???
I think it is pathetic to build any set for an award. I built my #1 3CS set for the feat of doing it and I loved he coins. It is my nature to strive for the very best-not because of some listing. Ditto for several of my bigger customers.
How many of the collectors building top sets are just there for the award?
Your statement that "I built my #1 3CS set for the feat of doing it" sounds like you built it for the award, but perhaps you meant the feat is building the set, not the #1 set?
While you may not strive for a ranking, I have seen you talk about how many #1 sets you helped build so it seems to mean something.
I finished going through the 2018 registry award list and counting number of sets which I added to the post above.
Here are the top collectors by number of 2018 set awards. Hansen is ahead in number of sets but not by much.
It will be interesting to see where 2019 ends up.
No, I meant for the hunt, should not have used the word feat.....I couldn't care less about an award. I feel what I built for myself was a piece of history preservation
besides, EVERY coin in EVERY set I built is 100% all there and then some. Can't say that about some peoples sets.....
He will never own my coins!
Proud to say he does own some from my retired sets.
You had some wonderful coins. Mine are the blue collar kind.
I don't think Hansen has personally publicized his feat, has he?
I think it's natural for such a collection, clearly the greatest ever, to draw human interest by itself.
Not clearly. Not yet
Delloys collection is NOT the greatest ever!!!! PLEASE QUIT saying that.
It is ONE of the greatest ever. You have no clue what is out there.
I have to say... From an overall perspective....Hanson's is the greatest ever assembled. I just watched the movie again for the umpteenth time...Secretariat. I predict the finish will be the same with Hanson being hands down the winner! 32 lengths...never ever been approach since!
Do you even know what Farouk had? What Brand had? What Green had?
Give me a break. Definitely condition census, though.
Regarding Farouk, Brand and Green, I wish we could recreate their collections with TrueViews like we started to do for James A. Stack. It's very hard for many to enjoy the those old collections without lots of great photos.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/988150/appreciating-james-a-stack
It sure looks like he has the greatest collection currently in existence.
I've been watching him build his Saint set and enjoying all the activity.
(I even got one of his hole-fillers for my set after he upgraded)
My Saint Set
Pretty soon he’ll catch up to Simpson’s
...Obviously, you know your feeding the beast that you fear most (in numismatics) here right? I mean you seem to be a very intelligent human so just trying to figure out why or what’s in it for you (and maybe Simpson), as I am sure there is a beneficial rhyme to your reasoning? Yours and Simpson’s collections are utterly AMAZING and they speak for themselves, can this man get that same treatment also or no?
His collection IS amazing. Just not the hands down best ever formed. I prefer factual analysis, not hype.
I will challenge the quality of Simpsons collection vs ANY around today. His sets are a compilation of many of the greatest collections ever formed. My mission was simple: buy him only the very bet with monster eye appeal. For the 1st 5 years, we were underground. Only when he felt comfortable did he allow PCGS to post a few of his sets.
Delloy can not ever top SImpsons Saints or even Hedgies (he is not posted anywhere-his 27D is a 66). And you people have no clue that there is the guy in CT who owns 5 or 6 Ultra High Reliefs and a few finest known Saints like the 25S MS68 and 27D in MS67. He is NOT a seller either. Don't think we did not try. These coins are now in a trust for his grandkids.
Delloy for sure is one of the greatest ever collector-**NOT **THE GREATEST!
...and one more thing @tradedollarnut ...Remember a couple years back, when all those busters started hating on you and your Team for jumping a bid or 2 on probably The Coolest U.S. coin in existence...all’s that did for folks like me was put me in your corner. I was pulling for you to Win...I immediately get turned off by jealousy and hatred in any game where monies change hands. Your a Winner TDN and I want to see you keep Winning...that’s my honest opinion buddy and I hope I didn’t upset you
Having spoken to a few of Eliasberg’s contemporizes, I think that collectors of his day knew about him and realized that his holdings were extensive. They also realized that he was going to buy just about anything he wanted because he had the resources and the dealers often went to him first. One collector described him to me as “a vacuum cleaner.”
The “Missouri Cabinet” collector who amassed the greatest half cent collection of all time was well known to members of the Early American Coppers Club. He always brought his incredibly extensive collection of half cent varieties to the EAC conventions to participate in the Half Cent Happenings contests.
Going much further back in time, I imagine that Col. Green must have been known. How else would stories have gotten around that he would walk into a coin store buy the entire inventory. Obviously he must have been the target customer for the five 1913 Liberty Nickels at some point.
Hanson is unique in that he does not hide what his goals are while he’s in the collecting process. It is a bold move, but if you have resources, and don’t believe that stealth can work in your favor, it would be a lot of fun to be in his position.
the OP was discussing whether Hansen was unique in how public his collection is. I think part of the problem in comparing him to others is that their collections are not public or at least less so. I would love to know more about Hedgie or the Conn collector's collections but if they decide to keep it private (as they have every right to do) then the focus will remain on Hansen, his collection and his quest.
Until Hansen starts posting a thread for every single new acquisition he has a long way to go to steal the “‘most public” title from @DIMEMAN.
Count me out!
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
My new purchases are not that important.
Does this mean you don't like my posts?
I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I’m sure many here, myself included, love hearing about your collection.
Good perspective Bill. He really does seem stand out a rare collector that does things his own way. Good comparison to other notable greats. I'm sure he will stand out in the future.
I agree. I would never have announced my goal publicly before completion.
I'm this way too, but the fact that many of us are this way makes what Dell Loy is doing that much more impressive.
I agree it's a great challenge and fun to watch. Here are two interesting excerpts from the Eliasberg Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_E._Eliasberg
I'd feel pretty guilty if I was the one holding on to one of the last coins he needs to achieve this epic set.
I'd also feel bad about price gouging him.
But I'm not a dealer
My Saint Set
Funny because if Hanson exclusively dealt with a different dealer his collection would be hailed in this thread as one of the finest ever assembled
It IS one of the finest ever assembled
Shrug
Recently spoke with one of the folks holding one of those coins. I can assure you he doesn't feel a shred of guilt
First off, Delloy will never complete what Eliasberg had. He has to buy patterns and good luck finding anything or going against us.
Also, yes, there sure is one person out there who has several things he needs and absolutely does not shred a tear if he slams him like any ones ever seen. I think he just won't sell and will hold him hostage by dangling the coins in front of him.Some people just don't need the money.
OK. I'll bite. What are you holding back?