Did I find some SBA 79p Wide Rim?
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I don't have the expertise to tell. I'm going to consult a local collector\dealer, but thought I'd post this and see if I get opinions. Coin on the right is what I see typical of these (though there seems to be variance, and I used a D), left is typical of 3 79P I found.
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For comparison.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1979-p-sba-1-wide-rim/99571
Thanks very much this is helpful. Hmmm...hard to say though. The rims are definitely wider, but not sure I see the same variation in the gap between the rim and the one. Maybe the rim is just flattened due to wear...I will ask the White Wizard. The White Wizard will know.
The 'white wizard'?? Ok then.....
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I have always felt that "wide rim" or "narrow rim" is a bit misleading. The key is how far the date is from the rim, not the width of the rim itself. Slight misalignment of the dies, variances in striking pressure, etc. can make the rim width vary within each type.
I do not believe that either coin you posted is of the Wide Rim Variety.
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Sounds like a...(wait for it)...near...miss. Ha. I crack myself up...
Brought these to our club meeting and compared to a near date...clearly the rim is wider but no mistaking the date is not close to the rim...
looks more like an off center strike which would make some of the rims wider and others narrower.
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I know a guy who thought he had collected a roll of these over time. What he had was a roll of very slightly off center strikes.
I have always felt that "wide rim" or "narrow rim" is a bit misleading. The key is how far the date is from the rim, not the width of the rim itself. Slight misalignment of the dies, variances in striking pressure, etc. can make the rim width vary within each type.
the position of the date relative to the portrait is the same on both Wide/Narrow rim issues. what changed is the width of the rim which is why that is how the coins are described. look at all the other dates and mm's, 1979-1981 P/D/S, they are all Wide Rims. the only Narrow Rim is the 1979-P which must have been put into production first and the bulk of the production run was with the Narrow Rim dies. then all Mints and all years proceeded with the newer, Wider Rim dies.
another point: the distance from the rim to the date on an off-center strike would be the same on a perfectly symmetrical strike. I have always thought the use of "Near Date" and "Far Date" were misleading, I correct people in the store all the time but they rarely get it.
Yes. Think of it as a near date and far date as opposed to wide and narrow rim
Those wide rims...man they are sneaky. So sneaky.
not sneaky at all. there is only one date you need to look at, 1979-P, and even my old eyes can discern the difference without a loupe. you just need to look at more coins and you'l understand the difference in the two.
Yeah...after I saw a real "near date" I realized it's pretty easy to tell. There really is a quite a lot of variance in the rim width, so the term "wide-rim" seems like a misnomer to me.