Proof 1938 Jefferson Nickel Framed With Sculptor's Signature
1938 5C Proof Jefferson Nickel in Felix Schlag Frame. The famous limited issue of 150 framed proof Jefferson nickels with artist's signature. The proof nickel shows only modest patina. Within a black frame with red lining, text as follows above the nickel, images of the original models to right: FIRST PRIZE WINNER / AMONG 390 COMPETING / ARTISTS IN THE NATIONAL / COMPETITION FOR A NEW / FIVE CENT COIN, APRIL 20, 1938 / [signature of Felix Schlag], SCULPTOR. Below the nickel, captioned PROOF JEFFERSON / NICKEL 1938, text below, with notary seal of Paul M. Wagner to left: UPON REQUEST / FELIX SCHLAG, DESIGNER / OF THIS COIN HAS CONSEN- / TED TO SIGN 150 PROOF / JEFFERSON NICKELS [symbol] OF / WHICH THE COIN ABOVE / IS NUMBER 123 [symbol] SWORN / TO BEFORE ME THIS 29TH / DAY OF SEPTEMB. A.D. 1939 / [signature of Paul M. Wagner] / NOTARY PUBLIC. A fantastic numismatic/ephemera combination from an important chapter in American numismatic history.
Ex: Americana Sale (Stack's, 1/2000), lot 1641.(Registry values: N1) (NGC ID# 279X, PCGS# 4175)
@leothelyon said:
Me thinks Felix did not personally sign this coin folder/book.
I own #132 of the 150 framed proofs. The silver signature on the whitman folder is identical to the notarized signature on the framed proof.
And the affirmation on the last page from the president of the Owassa (Felix's home town) penny collectors is not somthing that will be forged.
@leothelyon said:
Me thinks Felix did not personally sign this coin folder/book.
Based on what?
I apologize for the delay. Some relatives dropped in.
On the 150 plaques he made or had someone make for him, all the signitures look exactly the same. Click on this link to see those sigs http://www.felixschlag.com/gallery
And the color of the posted album's signature give me pause. But once seen up close will tell if it's handwriting.
Leo
Forgot to add; Felix Schlag also had collections assembled and likely signed and numerated but they were also leather bound. At one time I was aware of who had the #1 set but can't remember.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
@leothelyon said:
Me thinks Felix did not personally sign this coin folder/book.
Based on what?
I apologize for the delay. Some relatives dropped in.
On the 150 plaques he made or had someone make for him, all the signitures look exactly the same. Click on this link to see those sigs http://www.felixschlag.com/gallery
Click on the link you provided, and just check the top serif on the "F" in Felix.
There was a reason that he had these 150 signatures notarized, he knew that 80 years later that there would be doubters.
Each is a unique signature, but clearly made by the same hand.
This link is great. It provides evidence that they are individually signed. The shape and placement is different, while size and style is mostly consistent. The flourish or top of F is biggest giveaway and the placement of the S in Schlag below the E of Cent is different in each
He signed more than those 150 autographs in his lifetime. Those plaques are a good match but others I found on the internet were as good or even better.
The plaques were signed with a fountain pen in 1939, while the folder was signed with a paint pen in 1962. A paint pen can be a challenge to use (actual paint flows from the tip, not ink). He did a remarkably good job especially considering the pen he was was using.
I had stumbled upon that site. It has some remarkable information from FS himself about those plaques, how they got distributed, and what they sold for. I think the site owner is also trying to track known plaques.
Once AR gets the folder, maybe the FS site would be interested in photos...
@KindaNewish said:
It is done!
The set is on its way to Rocco right now. big thanks to Liberty Coin of Lansing MI for holding on to this for us. https://libertycoinservice.com
Lets wait until he gets this in hand and posts pictures here, and then I'll PM everybody my PayPal info.
Well done, everybody.
Ray
Pulling the box flaps apart revealing a hint of navy blue and the gleam of plastic
And the hand applied Golden paint pen
And the COA
Also is a nice set of nickels including a beautiful 1939 D and many other BU examples
I cannot express the depth of gratitude and appreciation I feel!!!
Thank you all so much!
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I will post more pics after I make copies of the COA letter and signature, then get it framed.
So happy! Thanks again Kindanewish and everyone involved!
I knew that this set was going to the right place. I so wanted to buy this for myself, but I knew that it belonged with you.
fyi: I asked the folks on this board to contribute to get this set to you. Everyone who pledged followed through (including the moderator), and that was awesome!
Our friend @Paradisefound kicked in $200. Above and beyond.
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I knew that this set was going to the right place. I so wanted to buy this for myself, but I knew that it belonged with you.
fyi: I asked the folks on this board to contribute to get this set to you. Everyone who pledged followed through (including the moderator), and that was awesome!
Our friend @Paradisefound kicked in $200. Above and beyond.
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Way to go KindaNewish; good job.
Congratulations @Aspie_Rocco and good move @KindaNewish. This type of fellowship is well deserving on this forum.
Jim
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@KindaNewish Awesome job!
Always great to see how this CU forum pulls together.
Congrats @Aspie_Rocco we know you will be an excellent caretaker.
Me thinks Felix did not personally sign this coin folder/book.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Based on what?
Edit: I poked around on the interweb and found some other examples of his signature, and the silver paint pen signature in the folder is a good match.
I just spotted this I was going to throw in cash but I missed out 😥but I’m excited you guys got it done
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Proof 1938 Jefferson Nickel Framed With Sculptor's Signature
1938 5C Proof Jefferson Nickel in Felix Schlag Frame. The famous limited issue of 150 framed proof Jefferson nickels with artist's signature. The proof nickel shows only modest patina. Within a black frame with red lining, text as follows above the nickel, images of the original models to right: FIRST PRIZE WINNER / AMONG 390 COMPETING / ARTISTS IN THE NATIONAL / COMPETITION FOR A NEW / FIVE CENT COIN, APRIL 20, 1938 / [signature of Felix Schlag], SCULPTOR. Below the nickel, captioned PROOF JEFFERSON / NICKEL 1938, text below, with notary seal of Paul M. Wagner to left: UPON REQUEST / FELIX SCHLAG, DESIGNER / OF THIS COIN HAS CONSEN- / TED TO SIGN 150 PROOF / JEFFERSON NICKELS [symbol] OF / WHICH THE COIN ABOVE / IS NUMBER 123 [symbol] SWORN / TO BEFORE ME THIS 29TH / DAY OF SEPTEMB. A.D. 1939 / [signature of Paul M. Wagner] / NOTARY PUBLIC. A fantastic numismatic/ephemera combination from an important chapter in American numismatic history.
Ex: Americana Sale (Stack's, 1/2000), lot 1641.(Registry values: N1) (NGC ID# 279X, PCGS# 4175)
I own #132 of the 150 framed proofs. The silver signature on the whitman folder is identical to the notarized signature on the framed proof.
And the affirmation on the last page from the president of the Owassa (Felix's home town) penny collectors is not somthing that will be forged.
I apologize for the delay. Some relatives dropped in.
On the 150 plaques he made or had someone make for him, all the signitures look exactly the same. Click on this link to see those sigs http://www.felixschlag.com/gallery
And the color of the posted album's signature give me pause. But once seen up close will tell if it's handwriting.
Leo
Forgot to add; Felix Schlag also had collections assembled and likely signed and numerated but they were also leather bound. At one time I was aware of who had the #1 set but can't remember.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Put both signature pics in above post.
Quick link:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12269076/#Comment_12269076
Click on the link you provided, and just check the top serif on the "F" in Felix.
There was a reason that he had these 150 signatures notarized, he knew that 80 years later that there would be doubters.
Each is a unique signature, but clearly made by the same hand.
Click on this link to see those sigs http://www.felixschlag.com/gallery
This link is great. It provides evidence that they are individually signed. The shape and placement is different, while size and style is mostly consistent. The flourish or top of F is biggest giveaway and the placement of the S in Schlag below the E of Cent is different in each
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
He had remarkable consistency in his handwriting. Good job on the blowups.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
He signed more than those 150 autographs in his lifetime. Those plaques are a good match but others I found on the internet were as good or even better.
The plaques were signed with a fountain pen in 1939, while the folder was signed with a paint pen in 1962. A paint pen can be a challenge to use (actual paint flows from the tip, not ink). He did a remarkably good job especially considering the pen he was was using.
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I had stumbled upon that site. It has some remarkable information from FS himself about those plaques, how they got distributed, and what they sold for. I think the site owner is also trying to track known plaques.
Once AR gets the folder, maybe the FS site would be interested in photos...
Cannot wait for the @Aspie_Rocco showing!
Anticipation!
I feel so lucky 🍀 opening this awesome box today
Pulling the box flaps apart revealing a hint of navy blue and the gleam of plastic
And the hand applied Golden paint pen
And the COA
Also is a nice set of nickels including a beautiful 1939 D and many other BU examples
I cannot express the depth of gratitude and appreciation I feel!!!
Thank you all so much!
Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you
Sincerely,
Rocco
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Very impressive.
Sweet! Hope you find a hidden new gem error in there!
I'm glad it got to you safely!
I'll PM everybody when I get home tonight
Excellent!
Collector, occasional seller
Wow, nice set!!! Congrats @Aspie_Rocco !
Wicked excellent!
Rocco: That set could not have found a better or more deserving home. Congrats.
Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs
I will post more pics after I make copies of the COA letter and signature, then get it framed.
So happy! Thanks again Kindanewish and everyone involved!
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Congratulations! Glad you like it.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Th Jeff album is awesome and definitely in the right hands. Congrats Caretaker @Aspie_Rocco!
You did great @KindaNewish!
Success!
Everyone who pledged to this endeavor has reimbursed me as of today.
This was a really cool exercise, and I'm happy to have been a part of it all. You guys are excellent!
Sorry I had to send you $10 in parking lot pennies.
no worries, I will post really good pictures of these under my alts.
KindaNewish,
It was mighty nice of you to put this together!
Now we just need an update from @Aspie_Rocco to see if there were any cool errors or other finds in the book.
I did not find any varieties so far, but there are some very nice quality strikes and toners
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
I was looking at my gift again tonight and Wanted to express my deep gratitude again, thank you everyone!
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Wow! This is awesome!
I knew that this set was going to the right place. I so wanted to buy this for myself, but I knew that it belonged with you.
fyi: I asked the folks on this board to contribute to get this set to you. Everyone who pledged followed through (including the moderator), and that was awesome!
Our friend @Paradisefound kicked in $200. Above and beyond.
I miss her presence on this forum.
Nice thread to revisit! You all are awesome...
Anyone know what happened with @Paradisefound? She just went POOF.
wow, I am surprised I missed this the first time around