To submit or not to submit, that is my question.
jtlee321
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After TDN's question about his friends 1966 SMS Half Dollar, I decided to ask for some of your opinions on mine. I bought a 1966 SMS set raw still in the OGP a few weeks back. I was drawn to the half dollar like a moth to a light. I'd never seen contrast like this on an SMS before. Now it's not high grade, so wishing for a 68 is certainly not what I am hoping for. The spread between CAM and DCAM is where this would be worth the submission price or not. So, do you Kennedy collectors see this as a CAM or does it have a shot at DCAM? I have only $7.00 into the set, so it just might be worth the gamble. Thank you for your opinions.
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I'm going to say no DCAM. But if you like gambling then go for it. Less than a $100 at risk.
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SP67Cameo.
about the TDN reference, you should understand that Bruce has established himself as "World Class" grader, so he is right more often than he's wrong about a coin's grade. granted, he doesn't typically collect Modern issues, but he still knows how to accurately grade them.
A few hairlines and hits present. Might CAM. I'd guess SP66CAM. Probably cheaper to find one already graded on ebay than submitting that one. It would look good in an album.
I don't know.
I would need to compare it to a CAM and a DCAM side by side to see the differences.
It looks very nice. (Is that a grade? VN67
Oh, I absolutely agree. Don't get me wrong, I was not questioning TDN's grading capability. If he believes his friends is a 68, I would not question it for one second. I was merely stating that I know that my example is no where near a 68, more along the lines of a 66 as others have mentioned. My question was geared towards whether my example has a chance at going DCAM. The TDN reference was just a remark about how his post regarding his friends 1966 SMS half dollar made me think about mine. I just found it a funny coincidence that someone of his stature would be having a question regarding an example of a coin that I have also been contemplating. A funny happenstance of two people on opposite ends of the collecting spectrum both considering a similar coin.
I agree with you on the grade. This is not a series that I collect, but rather I found the raw coin very attractive and at a price I could not turn down. I'm not looking for a graded example to add to my collection. I would rather cherrypick a coin like this one that I can grade and flip for a profit and use the proceeds to purchase a coin that fits my collection a little better.
You are saying exactly how I feel. I have never seen a DCAM SMS coin in hand to compare to. I can only look at images, at trying to judge CAM/DCAM from images is difficult. With that said, I know I am asking a difficult question here, because all I can offer are images. I do know that there are some collectors on here who are very good at reading images of a coin like this and coming up with an opinion. A lot of them collect these and would have a better idea than I would.
I do appreciate everyone's opinion so far. I feel it might be worth submitting under the current quarterly special on an economy submission. So that may be the road I take.
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Giving the coin a bath will remove the haze on the coin and improve its appearance. From the photo it appears to be a Cameo. The obverse frost is not at a DCAM level.
Gorgeous coin.
I'd take the gamble. It's a beauty.
Do it. If anything, it's skin in the game and a valuable lesson.
Save your money.
It’s a really nice coin. Have confronted similar issue.
Go ahead and put it on the slab bus if there is vacant seat just to c (your just paying for a burger and couple drinks).
I do agree w keets on what grade mite be.
I have some 1954 PCGS 65 quarters from bu roll bought in early days of bay could not resist sending in.
@jtlee321 ...... yours LOOKS much BETTER than the one TDN is showing and I definitely didn't question him either so GO ahead and submit
@TDN ......... might look at yours after successful grading and acquire it for his friend
The OP coin is probably CAM, maybe 66... needs a bath to remove haze and dust. Cheers, RickO
Worst case, you rescued a nice coin from eventual oblivion and into a slab.
I call those mistakes Christmas gifts..
None of my SMS's look this good... LOL
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For $7 for the set you certainly could not go wrong.
On a related note, I find it interesting that the half is usually star of the show with these sets, but it's the cent that's really tough to find in cam.
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Thank you all for your comments. I really do appreciate it.
I agree on the cent. At the time that I picked up the 1966 SMS set I also grabbed a couple of 1965 SMS sets, the Half Dollars looked like they might have some cameo contrast. When I got them home, I realized the Half Dollars were just short of CAM, but, one of Lincoln Cents really stood out. I have a pretty good feeling on it getting CAM, but it's got quite a few ticks in the fields which I feel would hold it to a 64 possibly 65.
I would like to see images of the Lincoln.
....and your half will not DCAM .
Here are some images of the Lincoln Cent.
I'm thinking 66cam on the half. Mirrors not deep enough and the hairlines at 3 o'clock.
My 1966 in 67dcam does not have a True View, but I do have TVs of my 1965 (65 dcam) and 1967 (66 dcam) for reference.
As far as SMS cents go, those are tough to find. PCGS loves deep mirrors - the devices can have all kinds of frost, but if the mirrors are not deep, no cameo. This is based on a number of submissions about a decade ago. 1965 SMS cent below for reference.
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My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
that's a nice looking half for sure
Agree... your cent is a CAM but will not be viewed as such because it's not deeply PL.
I disagree with this philosophy...after all if a coin has frosted devices and moderate mirrors (or even satiny luster), it IS a cameo......except when it's not.🤔