Biggest college entrance cheating scandal in US History just broke.
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Reported that "several" coaches took bribes at major colleges allowing non athletes to enter athletic programs.
Boston US Attorney reports that indicted coaches kept some, all or part of bribe money.
Developing...heads will roll big time.
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Big name actors and actresses are involved, big money big scandal
Is this a joke?
just saw it. yet another reason to get the money out of College Athletics and reform some type of College Tuition system. if anyone can't see the direction MONEY is taking our Nation they must be blind/deaf/dumb and living somewhere on an Island.
everything is ruled by greed.
The only joke is people thinking that this type of stuff hasn’t been going on forever.
What's the old saying....."money is the root of all evil"! Very true. Sad but true.
no, that isn't the saying, that is the ignorant mis-quote of the Bible verse. what the quote is: the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. it's all about not being able to serve two Masters. that mis-quote(used by Dimeman) is right up there with a lot of other misused saying. another favorite is when people want to state their lack of interest and they say "I could care less" when they actually mean the "couldn't" care less.
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Dimeman...NO JOKE!!!
holy cow...
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Grammar police is worse than harmless misquotes
Especially the dimes.
I wasn't quoting the Bible. I was quoting what people say. And aren't the 2 quotes basically the same? It's all about money.
no, the two quotes are not the same. If one was to say money is the root of all evil, that is putting a negative morality on the physical money. actual, physical money is neither evil nor not evil. It is taking the responsibility away from people and putting it onto an inanimate object. there is not one thing wrong with having money. even lots of it. the bible does say, however, that it is more difficult for the rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
when one says the LOVE of money is the root of all evil, the onus is correctly being put on the person, not the money. It is the desire or lust for getting more and more and more that is the root of the verse. and the root of all evil.
I hope that makes sense
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I see your point. It's like guns don't kill people.......people kill people with guns. Guns themselves are like money as you stated.
you got it!!
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so Craig expounded on what I said, at least you get it now. here's the thing, since most people are ignorant of the actual quote doesn't make it OK to perpetuate the myth and lead others by ignorance. just as with coins and sports, we should actually know what we're talking about.
grammar police I'm not, perkdog, ignorant police I will always be.
It bugs me when people say "I could care less".
If you go back in all my post you will see that I always say "Couldn't" care less.
😂 OK
Interesting thing about a college education. Many people pursue a college degree and pay through the nose for it. They think a college degree will help them be more successful financially during their work career.
My experience with people has been that some of the most successful and happiest persons I know never went to college and stopped book learning at a high school diploma. Some even dropped out of high school.
I have a theory , people who make themselves rich are pretty smart . Then they marry someone who is good looking and dumb and well their kids are usually stupid and/or lazy . So if you don't bribe the college they ain't getting in.
I think a lot of the girls want to professionally take pictures of themselves.
And I never contributed to this, haven't watched a single episode of anything with Kardashian in it.
Just blame Pink Floyd for everyone getting the quote wrong.
I used to consider it good luck if this song came on the radio on my way to the casino.
I used to.
"Money"
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and you're O.K.
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money, get back
I'm all right, Jack, keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit
I'm in the high-fidelity first-class traveling set
And I think I need a Learjet
Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're giving none away
"Ha-ha! I was in the right!"
"Yes, absolutely in the right!"
"I certainly was in the right!"
"Yeah, I was definitely in the right. That geezer was cruising for a bruising!"
"Why does anyone do anything?"
"Yeah!"
"Why does anyone do anything?"
"I don't know, I was really drunk at the time!"
"I was just telling him it was in, he could get it in Number Two. He was asking why it wasn't coming up on freight eleven. After, I was yelling and screaming and telling him why it wasn't coming up on freight eleven. It came to a heavy blow, which sorted the matter out."
I can see having to bribe your way into Harvard or Yale, but USC? That school has always had the reputation of being for spoiled brats who couldn’t get into Cal or Stanford.
Lying and cheating have been normalized by our current situation. Now everyone thinks its ok.
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the "Standard" is typically set from the top down. we are in a time when the "Standard" being set by the top(read: money) is not an admirable thing. to me, it's troubling when the wealthy and privileged, who already have every advantage, feel the need to lie/cheat/pay to get what they want. I guess it's just too hard to have Integrity and Honor.
the trouble starts at the top and currently, everyone is watching.
what is strange is that there are any number of good, even great Universities and Colleges around the country that offer top educations at an affordable price. blue bloods seem to think their children need to go to the Ivy League and other schools. those schools are really fine, they just aren't the end-all for a top education. there are people all around the country who attended Community/State colleges and are doing just fine, even excelling.
What a great start to their respective tenures in Congress!
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I'm not saying this shouldn't have been investigated. But as I think almost everyone knows, if the FBI really wanted to put a stop to this, every politician out there, and I mean every single one of them, even on the state or local level, would get busted for doing something similar to this.
I'm not saying direct bribery with every politician. However politicians can and do help potential students get into various schools. It is a well understood perk of being a politician.
Frankly with all the terrorism, drugs, violent crime, etc, going on out there, I'd rather see the FBI focused on that.
Or ..... instead of offering up a few third rate actresses who gamed the system prosecute 500 or so 1%er's .
Like Lori Loughlin is a ringleader ? Kinda like Martha Stewart going down for insider trading but the guy she got the tip from told 50 other people but they get off
As to what you are saying about politicians , if you wanted to go to west point or annapolis then you could have the best grades in the world but you had to know someone in politics and smooch their backside to get a spot
Probably everyone here has seen the movie Rudy.
The implication with a segment of the movie was that Rudy really didn't have the necessary grades to get into Notre Dame, even after attending that community college.
But that priest played by Robert Prosky, used his pull to get Rudy accepted. No bribery involved, but influence, of course.
Nobody gets anywhere without help.
Nobody.
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What a weird movie
That poor little hobbit wanting to go to Notre dame so bad 
To me thats the definition of pathetic , like notre dame is the most amazing thing in the world for some clown and he was treated badly but somehow it was worth it in his warped brain. Its probably true though , I mean people are stupid . Right now there are ten million of them at least that would do anything to be like a Kardashian. People idolize morons or are desperate to be accepted into some group or clique and its all pointless . Oh look I got into Yale !! Ya so did george Bush , and hes a moron 
It just shows how vulnerable people are to propaganda . Lori pays 500 grand to get her dopey kid into a garbage school? Meanwhile the kid has a youtube channel making money and doesn't even need college. Who are these idiots trying to impress ? If you are a celebrity your kids don't need college , they will never amount to anything anyway , and probably OD on something and die young , save your money for when your looks go and you can't get work Lori.
Really? Nobody gave me a damn thing, and I made my own way at the age of 18. I feel pretty accomplished, going from an enlisted man in the Army, rising to the rank of Captain, (via OCS) and fairly well decorated with a Bronze Star from my time in Vietnam. And, to boot, I have 5 college degrees, including an MBA, summa cum laude from Embry Riddle Aeronautical University.
I busted my a$$, working full time, often times taking 2-3 classes per semester. Wasn't easy, but I did it!! I sacrificed a lot of nights and Saturdays to get through it all. I was also an Air Traffic Controller for 7 years...nobody helps you there when its game on, NO WAY to cheat your way into that job, or excel after the unending training unless you study, study and study some more. You are trained by your peers, and they will flunk you in a nano second.
My work ethic and job performance allowed me to excel. No brag, just fact.
Not everybody cheats, and those that do, when caught should get burned.
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now the thread goes off the rails in 3 2 1
That's all great, i sincerely mean that, and you're to be applauded.
However let's say somebody like you, self-made guy, has money, and has a loving daughter who badly wants to attend a certain school. But for whatever reason cannot get in. And she comes up to you and says something like, Daddy can you help? And you happen to know the politician who you campaigned for and he or she got elected. And that politician has influence on how much funding that particular school gets from the state or the feds.
Well, you know and we all know you're gonna make that phone call to that politician and ask him for a favor. And the politician won't even mind doing it for you.
Cheating you may say? I don't see it that way. It's through your hard work that got you in a position to make a phone call and use your influence to help your family succeed.
That's the way the real world works. And if somebody wishes to be involved in a perfectly equal society, then best join some monastery in Tibet, because you won't find it here or likely anywhere else.
I am proud of you and happy for you, too!
But unless you were placed on planet earth at 18 or were raised by English speaking wolves to that, though, people helped you: parents, teachers, coaches and so many other people helped you. Clearly they did a fine job too as it seems when the time came, YOU helped yourself. And my guess is that you are probably helping others at this point, too.
It’s how it’s supposed to work. What the people in the OP are doing is not help, it’s the furthest thing from it, in fact.
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The thread is about cheating, fraud, deceit and undoubtedly serious IRS tax fraud.
You can make all the stories up that you want. NOBODY gave me anything. We're talking college education, not a nurturing family environment, which I was blessed to have. No teacher gave me a damn thing...when my High School Spanish teacher asked if I had a brother, which I did, she kinda gave me an eye. I struggled to get a B. Never had a coach, I was too small to play High School football...I did try, but found out quickly I was better off in the student ticket section.
IF I had a daughter, and I were a millionaire with "connections"...I would NOT bend any rules, make any phone calls to influence anybody about her enrollment in anything. Money, tuition, expense and support, ok, but, not to cheat or step in front of anyone else. If you don't have the God given talent or skills, you just don't have them.
I didn't put up my personal stuff as a "hey look at me"....I merely responded to 1951 Wheaties premise that nobody gets anywhere without help...meaning that somebody must've pulled some strings for me. I just got off my a$$ and made something of myself and I did ok. Even when I was a full journeyman Air Traffic Controller, with nobody watching over me, I still studied in my free time, I never wanted to get caught in a bad situation and not know what to do...however, I've seen a lot of other guys get very complacent, not stay up with changes and then I'd just sit back and watch the air show.
I think you're really manipulating the word "help" as it refers to cheating. What I got, I got with my own steam. As for helping others, not really. I'm generous, pick up the tab now and then, good neighbor... and have tried (without success) to pass on to young relatives the importance of saving for the future...time value of money, compound interest, blah, blah...only to soon realize they looked at me like I was from Pluto...so, I stay low key and savor my happy life, I'm in a very, very comfortable place, both physically and mentally. I am indeed blessed to have what I have!! It's called the fruits of my labor.
The "story" was an illustration of a real life scenario and you know it. Happens all the time. Someone who works hard and is prosperous deserves to be in a position where they can help their loved family members. They wouldn't be the best of parents if they didn't try their utmost to provide every opportunity possible for their family.
BTW: Lori Loughlin was arrested today. This was a nationwide sting operation involving 300 FBI agents. Thank goodness the FBI got Lori Loughlin off the streets. I feel a whole lot safer now. Great job FBI. Maybe next the FBI can do a sting on litter bugs terrorizing communities out there.
i never produced offspring (you're welcome), but if i had, the first possible thing i was going to ingrain in his/her melon is that who you know is arguably just as important (if not more) than what you actually know. and i'll be the first to admit, i never thought that to be the case when i was matriculating at under & grad school. i didn't completely disregard networking, but if i had it to do all over again, i'd nudge the scale slightly to improve the pavement on the road i chose to travel.
the elevators of some of my best friends in college didn't go to the top floor, yet a number of them are professionally kicking ass and taking names because someone or someones passed them the baton. but to their credit, they blazed their leg once it was in hand. some extraordinary people can run the 400 meters in life, but the vast majority require the 4 X 100. either way, the finish line is in the exact same place.
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You want to view it as ‘I did this all by myself’, feel free and God bless.
I meant it just as I wrote it.
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It is called integrity. it sure seems you have it.
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So I heard the Hallmark channel fired Lori Loughlin over this. It got me thinking , this is just the type of situation Hallmark channel would make a movie of the week about.
If they hadn't fired her , she could play herself !!!
Al is old school. Hence the somewhat angry response, I understand it, some of you do some of you don’t. Al, your always good in my book 🍻
During the movie when the scandal broke, her boyfriend would break up with her,
then she would offer him $500,000 to stay with her and they would live happily ever after.
The movie could be called.......
"When calls the FBI agent who was wiretapping your phone when you offered a bribe to get your
instagram influencing daughter into college in an attempt to make her look at least a little more
intelligent than one of the Kardashian women"
It doesn't quite flow like "When calls the heart" but it'll do.