Sub poppage -- '80s & '90s Baseball and Basketball - SCANS ADDED
ReggieCleveland
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Not too many surprises except for the Larkin and the '90 Donruss. I'm pretty not happy about the '90 Donruss but maybe when I get them back I'll find that they got dropped in a bowl of nacho cheese or something. At least that would make sense.
The Canseco Rated Rookie was a local antique store pickup for $8. It looked pretty 10ish in the store so I grabbed it, very glad I did. Obviously, I forgot about the 1-grade penalty for submitting Michael Jordan cards. I won't forget that next time. Submit 11s if you want 10s. Most of the 8s I knew were 8s but they're for my PC and just wanted them slabbed.
216 1 41622349 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Action Packed Rookie Update 34 Emmitt Smith Card
217 1 41622350 MINT 9 1990 Action Packed Rookie Update 34 Emmitt Smith Card
218 1 41622351 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Action Packed Rookie Update 38 Junior Seau Card
219 1 41622352 MINT 9 1993 Upper Deck 466 Michael Jordan Card
220 1 41622353 MINT 9 1993 Upper Deck 466 Michael Jordan Card
221 1 41622354 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Collector's Choice 219 Grant Hill Gold Signature Card
222 1 41622355 MINT 9 1994 Hoops Schick Grant Hill Card
223 1 41622356 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Hoops Schick Jason Kidd Card
224 1 41622357 MINT 9 1994 Skybox Premium Skytech Force SF11 Jason Kidd Card
225 1 41622358 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1994 Classic 4 Sport High Voltage HV6 Jason Kidd High Voltage Card
226 1 41622359 MINT 9 1994 Topps Embossed 121 Michael Jordan Card
227 1 41622360 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 Hoops Top Ten AR1 Shaquille O'Neal Card
228 1 41622361 MINT 9 1995 Hoops Number Crunchers 1 Michael Jordan Card
229 1 41622362 MINT 9 1996 Topps 182 Steve Nash NBA 50th Card
230 1 41622363 VERY GOOD 3 1922 W575-2 Harry Hooper Hand Cut
231 1 41622364 GEM MINT 10 1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco Card
232 1 41622365 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Glossy 204 Barry Larkin Card
233 1 41622366 GEM MINT 10 1987 Donruss Rookies 52 Greg Maddux Card
234 1 41622367 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Donruss 665 Nolan Ryan King of Kings-Cor. Back Card
235 1 41622368 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 665 Nolan Ryan King of Kings-Cor. Back Card
236 1 41622369 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 3 Ruben Sierra Diamond Kings-No Line on Top Border on Card Back Card
237 1 41622370 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 33 Juan Gonzalez Reverse Negative Card
238 1 41622371 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 33 Juan Gonzalez Reverse Negative Card
239 1 41622372 MINT 9 1990 Donruss MVP BC-12 John Smoltz (Photo of Tom Glavine) Card
240 1 41622373 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1996 Pinnacle Starburst 41 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
241 1 41622374 GEM MINT 10 1999 Topps All-Topps Mystery Finest M9 Derek Jeter Mystery Finest Card
242 1 41622375 MINT 9 2000 Topps Chrome Power Players P2 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
243 1 41622376 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 Topps Chrome Traded T114 Barry Bonds 1986 Reprint-Retrofractor
Arthur
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Don't tell me this! I just sent in 56 late 80's/early 90's Jordan cards in a bulk sub in Jan. Anything less than a 10 of what I subbed is not worth the grading fee.
You got some nice hits in there and very nice on the Canseco!
Some nice hits, but ouch on that Larkin.
Selling the canseco by chance?
I can't wait to see pictures of those 90's basketball inserts!
The action packed update Emmitts are tough. Congrats on the Canseco chaching
I love the variety in your sub. I certainly lean basketball so I look forward to seeing the Number Crunchers Jordan. Too bad one of those 9's didn't end up a 10. Nice hit on the Canseco Rated Rookie. I still remember when I was growing up and that card was $100 at card shows, when we had card shows and before grading companies were a thing.
It's for the PC, but thanks.
Yeah, I didn't even know how to grade them. I just threw them in the sub as lottery tickets. Hopefully when they come back I'll be able to see what makes an 8 and what makes a 9.
Arthur
Good luck! I still can't figure out the difference between my 9 and 6.
It's the way action packed cards are made, folded cardboard and glued( as I'm sure you know already).
The stock being folded onto itself creates air space between the layers. Any outside weight applied or the weight of the cards as they sit through the years, creates vertical lines running the length of the card. Sometimes on the front, sometimes on the reverse. The lines on the cards are impressions from the other cards in the pack as they sit unevenly stacked. Look for that. I bet that's the issue with the 8.
The 9? Grader preference...who knows.
I'm guessing your 6 is a a deeper impression of the explanation above
I just dug up some action-packed cards to show you guys what to look for. Impressions are usually located right on the edge but not always
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That's outstanding, @PopeyesSpinach. Makes perfect sense now. Thank you for the visual explanation.
Arthur
Anytime Arthur
those cool finds like the Canseco are what keep me continually stopping at antique shops to see if they have anything good..congrats...those are fun, and when you can turn it into a desirable PSA 10, all the better
Nice job on the Canseco! Those Gonzo reverse negatives were very cool back in the day.
One of my favorite cards in your sub is the Kidd High Voltage card. If that set was in a product besides Classic, I think it would have gone bonkers like all the other 90's inserts. Similar design to the '93 Ultra Scoring Kings but has more of a refractor like finish.
Congrats on the Canseco gem, Arthur. Show it off when you get it in hand.
Andy
Andy
Nice hit on the Canseco and Maddux RC 10s! Love the look of the Emmitt AP cards too...
Some very nice hits. Well done!
Some nice hits. Similar to your results, I'm debating whether to ask them to hold some of my orders and let this phase of the G.O.D. pass over...No pun intended.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Some good cards in there, Arthur. Nice work...
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Thanks, guys! I'll post pics when I get the cards in-hand.
Arthur
Some scans. Guess I'll start with the Jordans. I can maybe see how one of the '93s is a 9 but I went back over the other one and still can't find anything. I'm going to just put them both up and someone with more patience than me can battle it out for the 10. The Number Crunchers looks good to me too. Again, no patience. The Embossed is definitely a 9 but a 9 for that card is pretty tough to come by. Those cards BRICK out of the pack. I opened a bunch of boxes and most cards ended up with the white speck damage. On top of that, they're thick and not pliable and have that leather feel to them. Whatever they used to cut them wasn't that great so chipping on the back edges is a huge problem with this set. So I'm pleased with the 9, hopefully at least two other people will be also.
I think I had the Kidd pegged as a 9, can't remember. Either way, it's just a beautiful card and it's for my PC so just wanted it slabbed.
I'm struggling on these Ryans. I can see the speckiest of specks of white on one of the card's corners but the other is clean as a whistle. The only thing I can come up with is that these are the copper variation and instead of recognizing them as a variation (I didn't ask them to notate the flips since they haven't been cataloged anywhere yet) they deducted a grade for differing color?
I found a white speck on one corner but, again, the other is clean as a whistle. I have no idea on that one as I can't even point to a color variation to theorize on. It will be going back in or I may even just send it in for review.
On the bright side, I did hit a few. Here's the Maddux and Canseco.
And this I knew was 8ish but they're pretty tough to come by and it's for my PC so I just wanted it slabbed.
That's them. I can add scans of any of the others if anyone wants. Thanks for playing along!
Arthur
On both Ryan's the lower left hand sides look like an old cutting wire was used.
I'd expect those rough edges on an OPC but not a Topps- hence the downgrade
Just compare those lower edges with the Gonzalez- totally different.
On the Gonzalez top one has a minor flipped top right corner the bottom one is off slight T-B but well within tolerance. Must be something else they saw. The lower one I'd send in for review.
On the Bonds look for a surface blemish somewhere and its also off L-R as well.
I'd like to see a pic of this one if you could
230 1 41622363 VERY GOOD 3 1922 W575-2 Harry Hooper Hand Cut
jeff
Thanks Jeff. Agree on everything you said. Guess I just didn't think they'd ding the edge as it's not so bad that the back of the card is affected. The Bonds I knew was an 8, just wanted it slabbed.
I'm slowly (and I emphazise the word slowly) working on the W575-2 set. I've got the Ruth and the Cobb so it should be doable. Condition doesn't matter to me so I just lay in the weeds and grab raw cards when they come up. The set is neither related to the W575-1 set nor hand cut. Here's the Hooper:
Arthur
Those 90D reverse nagatives bring back memories. The 89UD Dale Murphy was all the rage back then.
Kris
My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black