@fiftysevener said:
Your coin is holdered perfectly withe bust looking slightly upward. Truly a knockout piece !
There are reasonable differences of opinion as to what is the proper alignment for this obverse design. The person putting the coin in the holder chose to center the entire date in the 6 o’clock position, as is normal on most U.S. coins, but I would have put the 5 dead center at 6 o’clock. The head would be more upright, and the reverse would not be rotated in the holder.
About 30 years ago, Jay Miller and I owned THE Cardinal Spellman-Dave Akers 1838 proof Eagle. The same misunderstanding takes place with that 2 year series. I find it hard to understand why anyone, at least in that time frame, would care about much besides the date. Mostly it was a metal disc with heraldic designs bankers could quickly verify as authentic. Heraldic convention for coin design in Europe would usually/always(?) place the date squarely at 6 o/c. My esthetic sensibility is heightened by the image of Liberty _ leaning forward. In both cases, properly aligned it makes for a much more dynamic representation of our country.
When Jay and I produced a mini-booklet on the coin. its picture was the entire cover. When I complained about the date/head placement, he numismatically agreed. When he pointed out the dissonance created when viewing this vary rare type because the head did not align vertically as did the other 99.9% of Liberty $10's, I, a numismatic slut and yet a market whore, agreed. Dave Akers never even brought the point up, and he was our biggest cheerleader on the coin, which he favored even more than the Garrett-Pogue-Jung $1795 $10.
I can't say @CaptHenway is right, but I certainly agree with him.
I will defend to the death your right to agree with me!!!
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
Regarding the orientation in the holder, i think aesthetically, it just needs to be rotated juuust a lityle bit clockwise for the obverse (ccw for the rev.). A few degrees would better center both the date and the space below the eagle between the U and A.
Regarding the orientation in the holder, i think aesthetically, it just needs to be rotated juuust a lityle bit clockwbise for the obverse (ccw for the rev.). A few degrees would better center both the date and the space below the eagle between the U and A.
Tap tap tap! (Gently) Mark!
Thanks Baley! My Dad comes from a family of lumberjacks and my Moms family invented the GI Joe with Kung Fu Grip. Taking that into account I think I’ll leave it be. There is no finesse in my family tree only nuts
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Thanks Baley! My Dad comes from a family of lumberjacks and my Moms family invented the GI Joe with kung foo grip. Taking that into account I think I’ll leave it be. There is no finesse in my family tree
@EVillageProwler said:
Serious question: doesn’t the OP qualify for a ‘You Suck’ award? If so, I nominate him for one for acquiring this coin.
Well, I don't think this qualifies. The piece was properly graded and described, and he paid a strong but fair price for it.
I think he deserves a hearty "Well Done, Sir!" but not a "You suck!"
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
@EVillageProwler said:
Serious question: doesn’t the OP qualify for a ‘You Suck’ award? If so, I nominate him for one for acquiring this coin.
Well, I don't think this qualifies. The piece was properly graded and described, and he paid a strong but fair price for it.
I think he deserves a hearty "Well Done, Sir!" but not a "You suck!"
You Suck is if he buys a '95 Heraldic as a Small Eagle. OTOH it's good to hear from @EVillageProwlereven when he's wrong.
Given the Good Colonel’s senility , I know have much to learn from him about being wrong.
I fixed it for you
Good to see you on the light side EVP
Thanks everyone for the well wishes!
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Regarding the orientation in the holder, i think aesthetically, it just needs to be rotated juuust a lityle bit clockwbise for the obverse (ccw for the rev.). A few degrees would better center both the date and the space below the eagle between the U and A.
Tap tap tap! (Gently) Mark!
Thanks Baley! My Dad comes from a family of lumberjacks and my Moms family invented the GI Joe with Kung Fu Grip. Taking that into account I think I’ll leave it be. There is no finesse in my family tree only nuts
m
Send it to me. I can fix its orientation likety-split.
@specialist said:
Congrats! Great coin-great deal....
Are you quitting Walkers????
If 46- P’s in 67+ keep going for 28k maybe. Still stung I didn’t get that coin. I thought I wore my big boy pants to that auction. I’m actually just about done besides an upgrade or two
Thanks!
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@fiftysevener said:
Your coin is holdered perfectly withe bust looking slightly upward. Truly a knockout piece !
There are reasonable differences of opinion as to what is the proper alignment for this obverse design. The person putting the coin in the holder chose to center the entire date in the 6 o’clock position, as is normal on most U.S. coins, but I would have put the 5 dead center at 6 o’clock. The head would be more upright, and the reverse would not be rotated in the holder.
About 30 years ago, Jay Miller and I owned THE Cardinal Spellman-Dave Akers 1838 proof Eagle. The same misunderstanding takes place with that 2 year series. I find it hard to understand why anyone, at least in that time frame, would care about much besides the date. Mostly it was a metal disc with heraldic designs bankers could quickly verify as authentic. Heraldic convention for coin design in Europe would usually/always(?) place the date squarely at 6 o/c. My esthetic sensibility is heightened by the image of Liberty _ leaning forward. In both cases, properly aligned it makes for a much more dynamic representation of our country.
When Jay and I produced a mini-booklet on the coin. its picture was the entire cover. When I complained about the date/head placement, he numismatically agreed. When he pointed out the dissonance created when viewing this vary rare type because the head did not align vertically as did the other 99.9% of Liberty $10's, I, a numismatic slut and yet a market whore, agreed. Dave Akers never even brought the point up, and he was our biggest cheerleader on the coin, which he favored even more than the Garrett-Pogue-Jung $1795 $10.
I can't say @CaptHenway is right, but I certainly agree with him.
I will defend to the death your right to agree with me!!!
Of course I fully agree with centering the date almost always but if it was holdered in a rattler it could be upside down ! So there is one good argument to make for reholdering.
@astrorat said:
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@astrorat said:
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
m
I bet you are! I get it ... and I'm not even a world traveler! Thanks for sharing your great collection.
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@astrorat said:
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
m
Don't fly any 737-Max planes!
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
@astrorat said:
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
m
Don't fly any 737-Max planes!
I’m strapped in and hope for the best
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@astrorat said:
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
m
Don't fly any 737-Max planes!
I’m strapped in and hope for the best
Love it! Life on the edge!
"May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
@skier07 said:
Congratulations Mark. Please be careful driving home with that beauty and don’t make any stops.
Picked it up earlier today. As much as I had a hankering for Denny’s on the way home I resisted the urge.
She’s home and I couldn’t be happier. FYI Brian Kendrella at Stacks Bowers is amazing.
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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I will defend to the death your right to agree with me!!!
just ....... STUNNING !!!
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Nice!!!
Beautiful! You should be proud...
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
Regarding the orientation in the holder, i think aesthetically, it just needs to be rotated juuust a lityle bit clockwise for the obverse (ccw for the rev.). A few degrees would better center both the date and the space below the eagle between the U and A.
Tap tap tap! (Gently) Mark!
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Thanks Baley! My Dad comes from a family of lumberjacks and my Moms family invented the GI Joe with Kung Fu Grip. Taking that into account I think I’ll leave it be. There is no finesse in my family tree only nuts
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Mark, was that you in the commercial?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5vH9A8t9I
A HUGE congratulations, Mark. That is one gorgeous piece .
Serious question: doesn’t the OP qualify for a ‘You Suck’ award? If so, I nominate him for one for acquiring this coin.
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
Well, I don't think this qualifies. The piece was properly graded and described, and he paid a strong but fair price for it.
I think he deserves a hearty "Well Done, Sir!" but not a "You suck!"
What a stellar specimen!!
You Suck is if he buys a '95 Heraldic as a Small Eagle. OTOH it's good to hear from @EVillageProwler even when he's wrong.
Given the Good Colonel’s seniority, I know have much to learn from him about being wrong.
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
Wow, amazing, congratulations !!!
I fixed it for you
Good to see you on the light side EVP
Thanks everyone for the well wishes!
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I have no word for it
Send it to me. I can fix its orientation likety-split.
Yes indeed. What a coin!
If 46- P’s in 67+ keep going for 28k maybe. Still stung I didn’t get that coin. I thought I wore my big boy pants to that auction. I’m actually just about done besides an upgrade or two
Thanks!
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Of course I fully agree with centering the date almost always but if it was holdered in a rattler it could be upside down ! So there is one good argument to make for reholdering.
That's an incredible coin, Mark! Wow!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Thank you! I’m in Jakarta now, Singapore Tomorrow then back to China. Friday is the day I get home to drive down to pick it up. I’m excited like a little boy on Christmas
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I bet you are! I get it ... and I'm not even a world traveler! Thanks for sharing your great collection.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Don't fly any 737-Max planes!
I’m strapped in and hope for the best
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Dang Mark! Safe travels!
84 likes of the OP...................is that a record??
Love it! Life on the edge!
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Congrats MJ!!! What a great piece beautiful strike, color and minimal wear.... AB
Congratulations Mark. Please be careful driving home with that beauty and don’t make any stops.
Picked it up earlier today. As much as I had a hankering for Denny’s on the way home I resisted the urge.
She’s home and I couldn’t be happier. FYI Brian Kendrella at Stacks Bowers is amazing.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I was wondering how you made out.... that's great, Mark!
Glad she's home safe and sound.....Enjoy!
PS-I hope your wife is not too jealous. LOL
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Hard to call a beauty like this a monster coin but, it is what it is.
CONGRATULATIONS.
😊
Talk about the flagship coin of a collection!
It's definitely getting closer to this one!
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995636/long-beach-miracle/p1