1989 Rotten To The Core Donald Trump rookie card.....

Dpeck100 · February 27, 2019 8:34PM

Now that diversity is encouraged I decided to start a thread on the main board about this card.

This is a very fun card. In 1989 a company named Eclipse that was a big comic book company came out with a set of cards to depict and take shots at the New York power players. Donald J. Trump the real estate tycoon was naturally featured.

The set sat dormant with no real following until 2016 when Trump's push for the White House took off and someone discovered he was in the set.

Here is the interview with the man Dean Mullaney discussing the creation of the set from early 2016 and from this point forward the card became known and raw copies started getting submitted to PSA.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/trumps-deal-making-confidence-1989-now/

There has been a seller from the New York area that has submitted quite a few and I purchased three copies from him and I am betting he found a large stash of well kept sets. The card is really not that tough in a 10 so far and there are plenty out there at the moment but it will be interesting to see if this increase in supply continues or levels off. As it stands now there are 47 PSA 10's. One thing that makes this card attractive is it is like a novelty item and something fun to own for Trump supporters. The prices of these have been all over the map so it will be interesting to see where they are in a few years.

Here is a scan of one of my PSA 10's. I purchased the third copy to give to my twin brother Bill as a Christmas present.

As you can see it is a cool image of the bad guy Donald Trump the ruthless real estate developer. In the past year I was able to acquire a signed copy and this is a particularly interesting card because so far there are no red flip copies and only the blue flip copy I purchased is known. It is signed in gold and the full Trump auto. He has changed his signature significantly in the past two years and most are just the scribble version. I honestly don't see how many of these are going to surface. It is going to take someone very close to him to get one signed with a full signature or at all. Before anyone says spam, yes I have this card advertised on EBAY for fun and have it priced at level with auto decline where it isn't going to sell. I have no real intentions of selling it.

Love him or hate him a signed rookie card of the president is pretty damn cool.

akuracy503 · February 27, 2019 8:40PM

Very cool always thinking outside the box with your cards. Good stuff.
I can see these cards getting a price boost. Thanks for sharing

Desert_Ice_Sports · February 27, 2019 9:11PM

1989 Rotten to the Core... Nostradamus would have been proud.

Sdub · February 27, 2019 9:16PM

That looks like the same signature on the checks he sent to Cohen. I think it's good.

eagles33 · February 27, 2019 9:37PM

Very cool pick up. Presidential autos have always interested me. I’ve been eyeing the signed inauguration ticket stubs on eBay. Haven’t bought one yet though. I did pick up an unsigned ticket stub though and it’s snow balled into trying to get all of the Presidential inauguration tickets.

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 4:19AM

@Sdub said:
That looks like the same signature on the checks he sent to Cohen. I think it's good.

Haha

It would be really interesting to know the back story on the card. The guy I bought it from was selling a signed Hugh Hefner rookie so maybe he was into these oddball sets and getting them signed. Trump put out a number of books and many are hand signed and I compared the signatures and this does look spot on.

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 4:20AM

@eagles33 said:
Very cool pick up. Presidential autos have always interested me. I’ve been eyeing the signed inauguration ticket stubs on eBay. Haven’t bought one yet though. I did pick up an unsigned ticket stub though and it’s snow balled into trying to get all of the Presidential inauguration tickets.

Very cool. There is definitely some very neat presidential memorabilia out there. Post some pics of the ticket stubs.

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 4:33AM

I have to wonder what other signed cards by presidents are out there.

Doing a quick search here is one from EBAY that must be very rare.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRESIDENT-ULYSSES-S-GRANT-AUTOGRAPH-SIGNED-PHOTO-CABINET-CARD-AUTHENTIC-/123526898835?hash=item1cc2c6e493:g:FQIAAOSwTEZcB067&nma=true&si=YGsAj1iDYIatoOap%2BuZCPhTx34Q%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Just imagine if George Bush signed one of his 1990 Topps cards. That would bring huge money!

remedylane · February 28, 2019 4:36AM

I think the time to cash in on Trump memorabilia is while he is still actually president. I think once his term(s) is over it will all crash back down. He is a bit of an oddity since he was already famous before he took office. Kinda like Reagan, but Reagan was more wholesome and liked.

Just my thoughts. Not saying you even want to sell.

stevek · February 28, 2019 5:08AM

Important to remember with president autograph items that they are generally worth a lot more when signed while president, than before or after.

The Grant item "not authenticated" - I'll pass on that one even though it does sort of look good. But clever forgers and scam artists these days can make a lot of things "look good" when it ain't.

remedylane · February 28, 2019 5:25AM

Case in point, I like to buy and sell antiques and vintage items. About 2 years before Trump became president I bought a sealed Trump board game from the 80s. Paid a couple of bucks for it and at the time it was going for $10. I stashed to the the side, then he got elected. I pulled it back out and got $100 for it.. the presidential price bump is real lol.

2dueces · February 28, 2019 8:02AM

I miss Vargas.

bishop · February 28, 2019 8:14AM

Heh

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 8:26AM

@remedylane said:
I think the time to cash in on Trump memorabilia is while he is still actually president. I think once his term(s) is over it will all crash back down. He is a bit of an oddity since he was already famous before he took office. Kinda like Reagan, but Reagan was more wholesome and liked.

Just my thoughts. Not saying you even want to sell.

You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

georgebailey2 · February 28, 2019 9:22AM

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 9:25AM

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

I have no clue what that means. If you mean calling it yes. I called his first win from early on and never wavered. This next one will be much easier than the first.

georgebailey2 · February 28, 2019 9:33AM

@Dpeck100 said:

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

I have no clue what that means.

Joe Namath declaring that the Jets would win SB III. And I had it backwards, should have been "Joe Willie".

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 9:41AM

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

I have no clue what that means.

Joe Namath declaring that the Jets would win SB III. And I had it backwards, should have been "Joe Willie".

He had an impact on the game. I am just one of 328.5 million so I am irrelevant. The first one was a tough call and people thought I was nuts and I collected on a bet. This is the easy one.

AFLfan · February 28, 2019 10:31AM

Hey Guys... My name is Todd Tobias, and I am going to be moderating the forum a bit - more on that in another post!

I just wanted to thank everyone for keeping this thread within the realm of hobby talk, as it could have gone the other way. Please continue keep up the discussion. And while talking about the 2020 election comment just barely started down the political road, the subsequent Joe Willie & Super Bowl III reference and talk was a great change of direction! If you can't tell, I'm a huge AFL fan!

craig44 · February 28, 2019 5:39PM

Now that is a great card!!

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 5:53PM

@craig44 said:
Now that is a great card!!

I couldn't agree more!

As was pointed out by another board member I like to buy into cards that are off the beaten path that have a shot to go up.

Both of these cards regardless of value are fun to own and it is cool when I show them to people because they lose it and think they are so awesome.

addicted2ebay · February 28, 2019 6:08PM

Man a Trump RC auto should go for what the 90 Topps Bush auto card goes for. $$

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 6:17PM

@addicted2ebay said:
Man a Trump RC auto should go for what the 90 Topps Bush auto card goes for. $$

I think there is a very good chance this becomes a much more valuable card.

Time will tell.

MrHockey · February 28, 2019 6:31PM

Should appreciate when he’s unavailable to sign more due to incarceration

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 6:34PM

@MrHockey said:
Should appreciate when he’s unavailable to sign more due to incarceration

Haha

I hope for your sake you aren't counting on this.

MrHockey · February 28, 2019 6:42PM

Why on earth would someone be counting on the President going to prison?

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 6:44PM

@MrHockey said:
Why on earth would someone be counting on the President going to prison?

There are people out there that are hoping this will happen. You are obviously one.

Please don't ruin my thread Charragin.

brendanb438 · February 28, 2019 6:47PM

@Dpeck100 said:

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

I have no clue what that means. If you mean calling it yes. I called his first win from early on and never wavered. This next one will be much easier than the first.

I won close to $800 on Trump getting elected. Sportsbook.au had given me a few free bets in the spring leading up to the election which I placed on some random Cubs games, won those initial bets and then got 12-1 odds on him and figured why not.

I look forward to placing some real money on him for 2020 if they wanna give him long odds to winning re-election.

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 6:50PM

@brendanb438 said:

@Dpeck100 said:

@georgebailey2 said:

@Dpeck100 said:
You might be right. That said I have six more years to go so plenty of time to decide if I want to keep it.

Already "Willie Joe"ing the 2020 election, eh?
You heard it here first.

I have no clue what that means. If you mean calling it yes. I called his first win from early on and never wavered. This next one will be much easier than the first.

I won close to $800 on Trump getting elected. Sportsbook.au had given me a few free bets in the spring leading up to the election which I placed on some random Cubs games, won those initial bets and then got 12-1 odds on him and figured why not.

I look forward to placing some real money on him for 2020 if they wanna give him long odds to winning re-election.

That would be an easy bet to win. Hopefully for your sake there is someone willing to take the other side and allow for a big payoff.

I only won a bottle of vodka but it sure as hell was fun to drink.

MrHockey · February 28, 2019 7:09PM

This thread was ruined long ago

Dpeck100 · February 28, 2019 7:10PM

@MrHockey said:
This thread was ruined long ago

Well please stop commenting. You got banned once and I enjoy my posting privileges.

AFLfan · March 1, 2019 9:20AM

So this seemed to take a turn for the worse almost immediately after I commented on it having stayed clean to that point.

I have no interest in developing a reputation as a hammer on this site, but at the same time it is my job to help the site remain free of potentially volatile discussions. If you can appreciate the card above as a piece of memorabilia, please continue to discuss as you would any other card. If you feel the need to make a political comment, then before you do, please leave the thread and move on. There is no need to post political commentary on this site, and refusal to follow that line will get you banned.

Dpeck100 · March 1, 2019 7:56PM

vhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/President-Donald-Trump-Auto-Authentic-Friends-of-Ali-Leaf-Trading-Company/254122044406?hash=item3b2adaabf6:g:EhgAAOSwGPNcCIv7:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

https://www.ebay.com/itm/President-Donald-Trump-Auto-Authentic-Friends-of-Ali-Leaf-Trading-Company/254122044406?hash=item3b2adaabf6:g:EhgAAOSwGPNcCIv7:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

https://www.ebay.com/itm/President-DONALD-J-TRUMP-Auto-AUTOGRAPH-2012-Leaf-Pop-Century/401659771243?hash=item5d84c9b96b:g:5uAAAOSw27lcFyMD

There are lots of other signed Trump cards trading on EBAY but I like the signed rookie the best.

I have to think Trump laughed when he saw himself sitting on a skyscraper.

Dpeck100 · March 4, 2019 6:42PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Rotten-To-The-Core-26-Donald-Trump-PSA-10-Gem-Mint-rc-rookie-president-02-/283403092115?hash=item41fc240093:g:EIkAAOSwx2BcfAyE&nma=true&si=YGsAj1iDYIatoOap%2BuZCPhTx34Q%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

An example sold yesterday for $160.

When I first came across the card I bought a copy for $59.99 with shipping and then bought the next two for $69.99 apiece and then it ran up to $199. Some time went by and it pulled back to $74 and then a little higher and then it ran up to $151 and now $160.

This is a very volatile card and hopefully it can hold this rebound and try and go higher again.

Edit: I had just done a search on recent sales and didn't scroll down on my phone. Three of them actually sold yesterday and all to the same buyer I see after going to Watchcount.com $160, $170 +$5, and $199.

Dpeck100 · March 6, 2019 7:37PM

Donald would approve of that many perfect 10's. He likes 10's.

Dpeck100 · March 26, 2019 7:25PM

There haven't been any fresh 10's listed since the sales on the 3rd of this month.

The PSA 10 population report still sits at 47 so no fresh copies graded.

This population total is going to be really worth watching in the next 12 months because if it doesn't expand much this card has a shot to really rise. There was some incredibly bullish activity surrounding the subject in the past few days so like an athlete there are some reasons for increased demand.

It is going to be very interesting to see what happens with this card.

Dpeck100 · March 29, 2019 7:11PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Rotten-To-The-Core-Set-W-Rudolph-Giuliani-amp-Donald-Trump-Rookie-RC-PSA-9-/173824932203?hash=item2878c5f96b:g:r1wAAOSwkDtcL8p-&nma=true&si=YGsAj1iDYIatoOap%2BuZCPhTx34Q%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This set with a PSA 9 sold for $179 two days ago. Very strong price for a 9 so far.

waxman1981 · March 29, 2019 11:44PM

Should I get out my liberals Tears mug?

DeutscherGeist · March 30, 2019 1:02AM

From a memorabilia standpoint, that is an awesome artifact! (referring to the card, not the mug). It appears that it is still trying to find its footing in terms of price. Presidential memorabilia has its following, that is for sure.

Depeck100, does your crystal ball have any predictions on the Hall of Fame selections?

Dpeck100 · March 30, 2019 4:53AM

@waxman1981 said:
Should I get out my liberals Tears mug?

The bullish activity I mention above certainly caused some tears to be shed.

Dpeck100 · March 30, 2019 4:54AM

@DeutscherGeist said:
From a memorabilia standpoint, that is an awesome artifact! (referring to the card, not the mug). It appears that it is still trying to find its footing in terms of price. Presidential memorabilia has its following, that is for sure.

Depeck100, does your crystal ball have any predictions on the Hall of Fame selections?

I can't add any value there. I would have never guessed in a million years that Harold Baines would have been inducted.

clarke442 · March 30, 2019 5:33AM

Cool card

Almost looks like Sean Penn

byronscott4ever · March 30, 2019 8:26PM

@clarke442 said:
Cool card

Almost looks like Sean Penn

I scanned the entire thread to see if anyone else thought so

Dpeck100 · May 24, 2019 6:49PM

I have this signed card on EBAY just to showcase it and make the market aware it exists and the highest offer so far has come from a guy close to Trump. He said thanks for the idea and I wondered if he would really get one signed and tonight he sent me this on EBAY. The 1952 Topps Trump!!!!

Here is the info on the guy.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-visit-shane-bouvet-donald-bouvet/

Walt_Altmen · May 25, 2019 1:40PM

I like the back of that card!

Estil · May 25, 2019 7:26PM

I found it interesting that a local flea market sort of place had one of Donald Trump's autographed books...for $400. I bet it wasn't nearly that much until a couple years ago! You think Doc Brown in the first Back to the Future movie thought it was absurd that "The actor!?!?" was the (then) future President...imagine if they did a "BttF: The Next Generation" and someone went back to the 80s Doc Brown and when told who the President is, he'd say "The casino guy!?!?!?"

Dpeck100 · May 25, 2019 7:37PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Donald-J-Trump-Rookie-Card-1989-Eclipse-Rotten-To-The-Core-26-PSA-8-Near-Mint-/113686978343?hash=item1a78459f27:g:oBYAAOSwJ1lcVKB3&nma=true&si=YGsAj1iDYIatoOap%2BuZCPhTx34Q%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Still at 47 PSA 10's so it is putting pressure on the market. This PSA 8 from the source just sold.

The next PSA 10 is definitely going to move out of the recent trading range. Anxious for one come to market and see where it goes.

Morgoth · May 25, 2019 7:58PM

So after the warning 2 more political posts were made and by the OP but no bans, I see how it goes

Dpeck100 · May 26, 2019 4:58AM

@Walt_Altmen said:
I like the back of that card!

OMG this is funny! Found it on EBAY.

AFLfan · May 26, 2019 7:56AM

OK, the photo above is going to do nothing but potentially upset people. I guess it could be said that these posts are dancing along the political line without actually crossing it, but I am going to close this thread regardless. I just don't see it as contributing to productive hobby discussion beyond this point.

1989 Rotten To The Core Donald Trump rookie card.....

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