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SOME GOOD NEWS...IT JUST GOT MORE INTERESTING...THE REST OF THE STORY...

labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 19, 2019 7:23AM in PCGS Set Registry Forum

THIS MAY NOT END WELL...STORY TO COME, PERHAPS IN A FEW DAYS.
STAY TUNED. IN THE WORDS OF TRUMP: "Something Big Just Happened".

I so wish PCGS had the Proof-Like Designation. Here's my Pop 1 NGC MS67*PL 1947-S Roosie...

Graded by our host as MS67. Frankly, I think it's MS68.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful Roosie!

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool!

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a beauty PL or not!!

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    I've seen that coin in hand. Its a beauty MS68 all day long

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the comments buddies. It will stay in the NGC holder since they designate the PL. But, he will be going back to see if we can get the elusive MS68*PL. I'll forward this thread to the graders so they can see what the Roosie Master (Onlyroosies) thinks of the coin.

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • stunner!

  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking dime!

    Me thinks it has 8 quality, so send that puppy back in.


    Later, Paul.
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:
    Great looking dime!

    Me thinks it has 8 quality, so send that puppy back in.

    Planning to do so soon.

    Thanks buddy's for the kind comments!!!

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Outstanding and good luck on the 68*.

  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭

    Purdy!

    Dan
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, so now that PCGS is designating PL on coins, what is your opinion on the above coin NGC graded as 67*PL? Should I cross? Would it 68PL?

    Opinions...

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    Crack it, Send it, 68PL

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @onlyroosies said:
    Crack it, Send it, 68PL

    Ok, so why crack? If it did not PL at PC then I'm out the coin in NGC. It's currently Pop 1/0 at NGC. Or, should I hold off assuming loads will go to PC for PL? Why give up a Pop 1?

    Opinions?

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not crack a pop 1!

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    The coin is a monster. If you believe in it take as long as it takes to slab it correctly. If you believe the coin is MS 68 then crack it and you will be rewarded....... eventually.

    Jim. Send me the coin. I’ll work it for you. My treat, my cost. That’s the least I can do for you after you treated me to a Bottle of Opus 1. Hmmmmmm

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭

    Send to Nick, if he upgrades you buy more Opus...I like this plan. 😉

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @onlyroosies said:
    The coin is a monster. If you believe in it take as long as it takes to slab it correctly. If you believe the coin is MS 68 then crack it and you will be rewarded....... eventually.

    Jim. Send me the coin. I’ll work it for you. My treat, my cost. That’s the least I can do for you after you treated me to a Bottle of Opus 1. Hmmmmmm

    @rainbowroosie said:
    Send to Nick, if he upgrades you buy more Opus...I like this plan. 😉

    Hard to pass this offer up since I have another bottle of Opus in the wine fridge. Could be in the mail soon...

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    @onlyroosies said:
    The coin is a monster. If you believe in it take as long as it takes to slab it correctly. If you believe the coin is MS 68 then crack it and you will be rewarded....... eventually.

    Jim. Send me the coin. I’ll work it for you. My treat, my cost. That’s the least I can do for you after you treated me to a Bottle of Opus 1. Hmmmmmm

    Jim, I cracked out your blue 47-S out of a PCGS 66FB holder because I believed from the start it was lock PCGS 67FB shot +. I was rewarded by cracking it out of the holder and submitting it raw when it came back 67+FB.

    I'm a firm believer that if you believe in a coin, crack it out and get it into that holder.

    PL at PCGS is a whole new thing. I have no clue what their standards are, or if the will be more lenient with PL coins.

    When I offered you $500 Cash at FUN for the PL, I did not think it would 68, I just loved the look of the coin, and the fact that it is PL. I made a white 47-S in 67 PL, and really regretted selling it.

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hello all,
    on the chance you all call me nuts and skin me alive. (and lablover will probably try and shoot me)
    how can this coin get the grade it did, considering all the "cleaning"-scratches between the face and LIBERTY?
    It is a super coin at first sight.
    But then I saw the scratches and started to ask myself?????
    IMO (which does not count one iota) is this not what scratches look like?
    for luck of better knowledge, I sure hope these lines /scratches are die polishing lines??
    OR, are these "lines" in the slab??? If so, pop it as soon as possible and find a new home for it.
    I am sorry, I do not mean to create issues here... just do not understand.

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    RE:
    how can this coin get the grade it did, considering all the "cleaning"-scratches between the face and LIBERTY?
    ... But then I saw the scratches and started to ask myself?????
    IMO ... is this not what scratches look like?
    .., I sure hope these lines /scratches are die polishing lines??
    OR, are these "lines" in the slab??? ... just do not understand.

    Wow!

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    Those are not scratches. I have seen this coin in hand and there is no doubt in my mind that what you are
    looking at are die polish lines. The surfaces are PL and the coin is beautiful

    Onlyroosies

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    Hello all,
    on the chance you all call me nuts and skin me alive. (and lablover will probably try and shoot me)
    how can this coin get the grade it did, considering all the "cleaning"-scratches between the face and LIBERTY?
    It is a super coin at first sight.
    But then I saw the scratches and started to ask myself?????
    IMO (which does not count one iota) is this not what scratches look like?
    for luck of better knowledge, I sure hope these lines /scratches are die polishing lines??
    OR, are these "lines" in the slab??? If so, pop it as soon as possible and find a new home for it.
    I am sorry, I do not mean to create issues here... just do not understand.

    It's all good buddy. Nick's post above pretty much say's it all. Happy collecting...

    Jim

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Jim,
    am happy for you..wish I had a Canadian dime like this.. like a 1872 or 1875 or a 1858/ 1558.
    Maybe one day.. :p

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the coin is all there.
    I think some die polish marks can be beautiful if in the right places.
    I think that coin should be crossed.

    Those are "My thinks" for the day.


    Later, Paul.
  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ When I saw this coin in-hand at Winter FUN, I offered Jim $500 for this coin. The only person who'll think im stupid, is @onlyroosies :p

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019 3:22PM

    @ilikemonsters said:
    @YQQ When I saw this coin in-hand at Winter FUN, I offered Jim $500 for this coin. The only person who'll think im stupid, is @onlyroosies :p

    Sitting here at the beach in Ponte Vedre Beach in Jacksonville, FL., home to Sawgrass Golf, and thinking just how low an offer it was. Oh well, the dog's are having a great time in the waves, and Suz is sunning the buns on the sand. Does it get any better?

    Retirement can be really fun, on a budget. B)

    Cheers all...

    Jim

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any updates on this??

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Any updates on this??

    He's still in the NGC holder...

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lablover said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Any updates on this??

    He's still in the NGC holder...

    WHY???


    Later, Paul.
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2019 5:21PM

    @Stooge said:

    @lablover said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Any updates on this??

    He's still in the NGC holder...

    WHY???

    I see no rush to spend money on what is a no question PL coin. Guess I don't need PCGS to tell me what I already know.
    For those who'd like to see it in a PC holder, I'll accept grading fee donations. Just PM me for my PayPal address. :);)

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2019 6:02PM

    @lablover said:

    @Stooge said:

    @lablover said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Any updates on this??

    He's still in the NGC holder...

    WHY???

    I see no rush to spend money on what is a no question PL coin. Guess I don't need PCGS to tell me what I already know.
    For those who'd like to see it in a PC holder, I'll accept grading fee donations. Just PM me for my PayPal address. :);)

    I’ll pay the grading fee to cross it, but only if you allow me to submit it under my account.

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭

    Save your money to buy wine at FUN. :*

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2019 1:06PM

    @ilikemonsters said:

    @lablover said:

    @Stooge said:

    @lablover said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Any updates on this??

    He's still in the NGC holder...

    WHY???

    I see no rush to spend money on what is a no question PL coin. Guess I don't need PCGS to tell me what I already know.
    For those who'd like to see it in a PC holder, I'll accept grading fee donations. Just PM me for my PayPal address. :);)

    I’ll pay the grading fee to cross it, but only if you allow me to submit it under my account.

    @rainbowroosie said:
    Save your money to buy wine at FUN. :*

    Oh my, decisions, decisions. :)

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check the revised Headline...

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It went into a PCGS MS66 holder?

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't wait to hear - I don't think PL is just being handed by out by PCGS so if it get it - we'll know it's a Monster ;) I'm Cheering for you, Here's Luck!!!

    Ken

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2019 4:13PM

    Soooo, now it's dropped 2 points to a 66 without the PL designation and no star....

    All I can say is 'OUCH!!! That's GOT to sting!!!"

    Did you cross or crack?

    My guess is the former. :/

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope, same numeric grade, but no PL and now no NGC star either when I looked it up.

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Nope, same numeric grade, but no PL and now no NGC star either when I looked it up.

    The image and Cert # is when PCGS first graded the coin. The coin currently resides in a NGC MS67*PL holder.
    There is more to come in a few days. As Paul Harvey once said: "Now, the rest of the story".

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    I feel your pain Jim. This is worse than what anybody has discribed above.

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @onlyroosies said:
    I feel your pain Jim. This is worse than what anybody has discribed above.

    Does this mean "Details" grading?

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2019 5:55PM

    @lablover said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Nope, same numeric grade, but no PL and now no NGC star either when I looked it up.

    The image and Cert # is when PCGS first graded the coin. The coin currently resides in a NGC MS67*PL holder.
    There is more to come in a few days. As Paul Harvey once said: "Now, the rest of the story".

    Pheww...That's a relief. I hope that you left well enough alone.

    “I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~

    My Full Walker Registry Set:

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  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:

    Does this mean "Details" grading?

    Worse than this

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Come on Jim,(Paul Harvey), fill us in!

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:

    @lablover said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Nope, same numeric grade, but no PL and now no NGC star either when I looked it up.

    The image and Cert # is when PCGS first graded the coin. The coin currently resides in a NGC MS67*PL holder.
    There is more to come in a few days. As Paul Harvey once said: "Now, the rest of the story".

    Pheww...That's a relief. I hope that you left well enough alone.

    If I'm reading between the lines correctly it was not left alone, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it.

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lablover said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Nope, same numeric grade, but no PL and now no NGC star either when I looked it up.

    The image and Cert # is when PCGS first graded the coin. The coin currently resides in a NGC MS67*PL holder.
    There is more to come in a few days. As Paul Harvey once said: "Now, the rest of the story".

    What's the word Jim?

  • MattTheRileyMattTheRiley Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭

    @onlyroosies said:

    @erwindoc said:

    Does this mean "Details" grading?

    Worse than this

    What could be worse? Like they dipped it?

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully, come early next week we'll be in the position to tell "The Rest of the Story". It's a really crazy adventure, thus far.

    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    man I'm really pulled in and wanting to know the whole story now

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭

    Tell us space aliens lasered the postal truck carrying your coins...boom...explosion like Independence Day...so traumatic you had to consume a whole bottle of Opus to settle your nerves... B)

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
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