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Guess the grade - $10 Liberty

PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

Curious what others on the forum think of this coin. Sorry, no prize, just the fun of it. B)

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    markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks Ms 65 to me 👍

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wish I could afford to collect gold that nice. Looks way better than the 64+ I had last year. Wouldn't be surprised at a 65+ or 66.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the pictures 65

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64-65. Very nice looking.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64.

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The original photo was from an auction. I just took these through a loupe with my phone, for a different perspective:

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmm ... never easy by photos but put me down for 64.

    mirabela
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can’t see it less than a 65 unless the luster is real dull. Surfaces look gem for sure so I’ll guess 65

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65. Very nice!

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    KeithMS70KeithMS70 Posts: 192 ✭✭✭

    64+

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 shot 65 at the height of grade inflation

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    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭

    I just cant see that as a 64 but if it is wow! 65 I say

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strong 64.

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    SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the 64 crowd

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from those pics. MS 64 or 65 depending on which pic you go by.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very solid 63++ perhaps even a 64. Congrats!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Friction on the high points from second pictures; 62/63.

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a 64.

    To my novice eye it looks very nice for a 64, compared to some of my other gold pieces. It looks good in hand as well.

    I want to get it reholdered with a trueview. Should I send it in for a re-grade instead for a shot at an upgrade? Only a couple on this thread hought it could be less than a 64, so seems low risk?

    What keeps this a 64 instead of a 65?

    In any case its a very nice coin and will be a keeper for my gold type set.

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    Josh32Josh32 Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    @Pedzola said:
    What keeps this a 64 instead of a 65?

    I think the dent on the forehead is pretty distracting so that may be why. Could also be the darks spots in the fields.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What keeps it a 64 might be muted luster.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To be honest I have somehow overlooked this forehead "dent" it almost looks like part of the hair. I just brought up coinfacts to show you a picture to say "see they are all like that" and I was very wrong. I feel dumb! I can see that keeping it from 65, though I have seen 65s with worse. My 65 saint practically has an arm cut off.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could see an upgrade, but then again, not if I was resubmitting it.

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    Josh32Josh32 Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    @Pedzola said:
    To be honest I have somehow overlooked this forehead "dent" it almost looks like part of the hair. I just brought up coinfacts to show you a picture to say "see they are all like that" and I was very wrong. I feel dumb! I can see that keeping it from 65, though I have seen 65s with worse. My 65 saint practically has an arm cut off.

    I thought the same also and had to check coinfacts. Wasn't sure if it was part of the hair or pmd. If it was hidden in the hair I bet you it'd be a 65 easy.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 9:57AM

    Whatever you decided to do ...... she is a BEAUTY! From the the 1st pix I though for sure 65 and the label looks fairly new as well so maybe it is a solid 64 as graded. :) Congrats on a beautiful coin regardless.....

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    im not good with grading gold but do like that one. a high grade coin for sure, I like

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    IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭

    My first thought was that it looked like a 64+ from the first images, a 64- from the 2nd images, and that it was most likely in an MS-65 holder. I would consider going for the upgrade.

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    ParlousJoeParlousJoe Posts: 451 ✭✭✭

    That's a really nice looking 64! I was thinking it might have been a 65 because it is super clean looking with just a couple of minor hits to the face but nothing real distracting and the reverse is very nice looking as well. A beautiful coin you have!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am late to the game (this working is for the birds)... but definitely saw it as a 64 and possible 65. Cheers, RickO

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a very clean 64 and an attractive coin regardless of grade; I think friction is the limiting factor.

    mirabela
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regrade.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

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    markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC deserving coin isn’t it ?👍👍

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @markelman1125 said:
    CAC deserving coin isn’t it ?👍👍

    That coin doesn't need a CAC sticker. That coin can be sold on it's own merits.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a 64+ that I have since sold. I chose it after looking at dozens of baggy 64's.


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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are sending it back in for imaging, get it regraded. I don't know how much more it would be worth with a plus attached, but it is a very nice 64 and I would be delighted to have it in my collection! Nice coin!!

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you, I think I will take a chance on a regrade. Seems like little risk and as mentioned it was going back for a new holder one way or other. Bolivar thanks for the pics of your 64+ for comparison. Maybe tough to evaluate from pics but I would say mine compares favorably.

    Thanks all for the input.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess was 65. That's a very solid 64!

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well I did end up sending it back to pcgs for a regrade. I was hoping for at least a + but it is still a 64. $190 shipping and fees for this regrade + 2 reholders. Ouch.

    Here is the trueview, a little more honest than the original auction images.

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola

    Thanks for all the follow-ups on your Liberty. Love that gold!

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always interesting to see the results when a coin gets sent in / sent back. Plus the trueviews are excellent. So I'm glad the follow-up is appreciated.

    I've got one more coin to find for my 20th century gold type set. A 1900+ $2.5 lib in 66. Have the other 7 coins, all gold shield / trueviewed. Have seen a couple of the $2.5 libs but for something i never plan to upgrade im trying to find the right one. My indian/gaudens 4 are all candidates for upgrade in the future, but just dont care enough about the libs to spend more $$ for better examples. At least not yet. Very happy with the $10 I've shared in this thread.

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heres my set album for anyone interested. https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/album/174178

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola said:
    Heres my set album for anyone interested. https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/album/174178

    Very nice registry/collection! Thanks for the showing.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 64.
    Also MY photo so not that great.
    But... as far as I saw, only that black streak.


    ???

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