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What is up with this 1857 Flying Eagle Cent?

davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
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It does not seem to be fully struck, and has weak areas on both sides. Is it a grease filled die, an adjustment strike or a counterfeit? The weight is normal, so not a tapered planchet.




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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say weak stuck. Not uncommon with the high relief on these coins!

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  • KeithMS70KeithMS70 Posts: 192 ✭✭✭

    Just a weak strike I’d say

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Philadelphia Mint had persistent trouble brining up the design of FE cents. Relief was too high for the power of available equipment, and 88-12 alloy was very difficult to properly heat treat for soft planchets. These were primary reasons for the change of a Liberty portrait. The public was also confused because they associated an eagle with silver and gold coins, and the flying version was not "normal" on a US coin.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical weak strike. I've seen them so bad that the eagle's head is almost gone.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    agree with all the above - it's a weak strike,
    not a struck thru, filled die, etc., in case
    anyone was wondering.......

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a weak strike especially seeing the reverse.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An excellent example of a weak strike and RogerB gave good information on the problem. Cheers, RickO

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So if I send it to PCGS, how do they grade it?

    technical grade of XF but market grade of VF ?

  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally don't think that's a good candidate to send for grading but that's just my opinion I know people have different reasons for grading stuff and I'm not gonna judge

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sent this nice 1857 FE cent to ICG where it graded as an AU58:


    This other one has a flat strike:

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