1793 S-14 Liberty Cap Large Cent - Who Will Authenticate It?
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So, I just sent this 1793 Cent into PCGS. I figured that they would know how to identify a 1793 Liberty Cap and also figured that they would know about the die crack going down the center of the coin, making this coin the Sheldon 14.
I just got the grade: 86(Authenticity Unverifiable)
So, my question is: who will put this coin in a holder? ANACS?
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You might need to call ANACS and NGC to ask them yourself. Be prepared to send pictures as well.
I cherrypicked one of these coins back in the mid 1970s based on that characteristic die break. The coin was pretty bad, but it was better than this one because the beaded border was still visible.
It’s touch and go as to if any will certify this item. Corrosion has taken away part of the copper so weight can’t be part of verification process. Specific gravity may also be a problem.
Good luck. It’s going to hard to get certification. As for grade, using Dr. Sheldon’s system, it would something less that Basal State -1 because of corrosion.
I am sure there is someone out there that might want that turd but I would not!
It grades
UGH!
Nice pick.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
I think your best bet is to get it certified as a genuine item and forget about the grade. Heritage had a Poor-1 sell for $3500 in 2015. No offence, but that coin had more meat on it than your coin.
Otherwise try an EAC dealer such as Tom Reynolds or Chris McCawley. I don’t know how agressive they would be to buy the coin but you could perhaps consign the coin to them. They may have a collector that could use one. I know some other specialist dealers but this coin is not the kind of item that they would want to deal with.
Good luck!
I definitely don't need a grade.
All I need is to get it in a holder so I can sell it without people wondering if it even is a 1793.
Thank you all so much for the replies! Yes, it is a really ugly coin. Lol
Edit: Just changed the title to express my question better.
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Just got the grade back from ANACS. They graded it as a 1793 Liberty Cap S-14 PO 01 Details.
Thank you guys so much for the help! I can now sell this coin without people being worried about authenticity.
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Good for you.
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Wow, nice, congratulations !!!
Congratulations; very nice!
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when coins like this are submitted, ALWAYS opt for attribution. it sends the coin down an entirely different pathway for verification and the odds of getting it into a genuine holder goes up precipitously.
i made this mistake on an AU large cent i had that had some odd coloring but had other diagnostics including a rather large reverse cud to identify the marriage and i didn't select attribution (would have been the the only coin in the order and probably would have delayed everything and at that time grading turnaround times were spot-on) and came back body bagged but i later sold it raw for a nice profit to a large cent specialist.
gratz on getting it into a holder. those people at anacs are sharp!
Good luck with whoever does attribute it. Comment removed due to a potential hurt feelings report.
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I have found ANACS to be good with attributions, especially with early copper.
In the current climate of counterfeits PCGS seems to take the safe way out with their unverifiable judgement. This is my well documented 1793 and it shares a similar fate with them...
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have you tried coins like this but sending in for attribution as well? (granted can't see how worn the rev is)
ANACS verified a 1799 large cent I cherried. Other grading services could not verify.
I attributed it for them; the reverse is countermarked with a known mark...
i appreciate that you did that but ultimately they are going to rely on their own decision and it could be counterfeit with authentic counterstamps (especially from their point of view). if you send it in through attribution channels, you may find success goes up on coins that are authentic.
i can't recall if pcgs does cross from anacs or just ngc.
Yes, PCGS does cross ANACS slabs. I have done this quite a few times.
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