First thing that caught my eye was the "toning" or "shoe polish" look. Then I saw the "pimple" above the 9 in the date. Repeated on all fakes. This is a result of a bubble bursting when a die was made via casting from a real coin. As the die cooled the bubble bust and left a dent in the die. Then with every coin struck from that fake die it was imparted as a blob of extra metal on the surface of the new fake. I call them pimples as that's what the appear as.
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@AUandAG said:
First thing that caught my eye was the "toning" or "shoe polish" look. Then I saw the "pimple" above the 9 in the date. Repeated on all fakes. This is a result of a bubble bursting when a die was made via casting from a real coin. As the die cooled the bubble bust and left a dent in the die. Then with every coin struck from that fake die it was imparted as a blob of extra metal on the surface of the new fake. I call them pimples as that's what the appear as.
bob
Yup, that's what it looks like to me. It's a good fake, but I fear the day they perfect the technology that @dcarr has.
Yes, we have a new variety, called “the pug nosed catamount.” The cat’s nose is too near the rim, which was the first thing I saw. This is a dangerous counterfeit, however. It could fool a lot of people.
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@Paradisefound said:
Cougar vs stuffed Catamount AKA Catamountain
Sadly, that was the last known Catamount, shot and stuffed in 1881. There were none left even when the VT commem was made I understand they may introduce Cougars from the West into northern New England.
Clearly a counterfeit. First thing that stood out to me was the cougar ear... the fake one is rounded... while the real one is elongated. But regardless, this will fool the more inexperienced.
I viewed a counterfeit Vermont Commem. this past summer (in Vermont, mind you!). They do exist. The example I saw had microsscopic bumps on its surface and a crude rim, so it was easier to distinguish as fake. I don't know offhand about the coin in this thread, but I can see why people are saying it's bad.
Ah, a blast from the past. Glad this helped you out, if it did. BTW, I won my case with ebay against the seller of the coin, so thanks to the forum for saving me some $$$.
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First thing that caught my eye was the "toning" or "shoe polish" look. Then I saw the "pimple" above the 9 in the date. Repeated on all fakes. This is a result of a bubble bursting when a die was made via casting from a real coin. As the die cooled the bubble bust and left a dent in the die. Then with every coin struck from that fake die it was imparted as a blob of extra metal on the surface of the new fake. I call them pimples as that's what the appear as.
bob
Yup, that's what it looks like to me. It's a good fake, but I fear the day they perfect the technology that @dcarr has.
Yes, we have a new variety, called “the pug nosed catamount.” The cat’s nose is too near the rim, which was the first thing I saw. This is a dangerous counterfeit, however. It could fool a lot of people.
Sadly, that was the last known Catamount, shot and stuffed in 1881. There were none left even when the VT commem was made
I understand they may introduce Cougars from the West into northern New England.
Clearly a counterfeit. First thing that stood out to me was the cougar ear... the fake one is rounded... while the real one is elongated. But regardless, this will fool the more inexperienced.
It looks off to me, too.
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I viewed a counterfeit Vermont Commem. this past summer (in Vermont, mind you!). They do exist. The example I saw had microsscopic bumps on its surface and a crude rim, so it was easier to distinguish as fake. I don't know offhand about the coin in this thread, but I can see why people are saying it's bad.
I ran into the same counterfeit Vermont half at a coin store and tried convincing the owner it was well a copy and it didn’t sit well with him.
Btw I looked for a reference and found this and compared the images today I seen and exact characteristics show
Genuine Vermont half’s I have seen show no doubling or sloppy strikes over throughout the entire coin
Ah, a blast from the past. Glad this helped you out, if it did. BTW, I won my case with ebay against the seller of the coin, so thanks to the forum for saving me some $$$.