Day of Infamy

EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

In honor of the attack on Pearl Harbor, post a coin from World War II

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 39,875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just asked my wife if she knew what this day in history was. She asked : "isn't this your friend Fred's birthday ?

    The reverse of a '41.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 884 ✭✭✭

    Here are some interesting postmarks found within a batch of airmail stamps I had, along with two examples of the effects it had on money.

    Closest postmark I found was December 16, 1941 on a block of four. Can't imagine the magnitude of activity that must have been going on by that point just nine days later.

    Then there are a couple with slogans that were used during the war; then one from Tokyo Bay presumably after the war.

    The Aloha Week matches the dates it was held in 1949 after first being organized after the war in 1946. A bit of history here on Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Festivals

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭

    Love the flags Rick, and some great historical mementos/family heirlooms that have been posted.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2018 2:18PM

    @EagleEye said:
    Here are flags from the battle of Iwo Jima

    The US flag was flown on the Destroyer Escort DE 340 O'Flarety
    The Japanese flag was signed by the outfit and captured on Iwo Jima


    Nice flags!

    I have some flags flown over historic ships on specific anniversaries, such as one flown over the USS Arizona / Memorial (the flagpole is actually attached to the ship) on the 50th anniversary in 1991.

    I have a flag flown over all four WWII battleships that were recommissioned in the 1980s.

    In early 1991 I also had sent a flag to the commander of the USS Missouri which was in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Shield in hopes that he would fly it over the ship for me. He did exactly that, and the receipt of the flag and its subsequent flying over the ship coincided with the day the USS Missouri fired cruise missiles at Iraqi forces, which marked the start of Operation Desert Storm.

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My father just found my grandfather's 41-page journal from when he was stationed in the Pacific. I'm looking forward to reading it.

    IG: X_COINNERD_X

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭

    Firsthand history from within the family would be fascinating @Regulated.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a day, that we remember to honor those who served and made the ultimate sacrifice and we who live on and do service. War never changes. Peace Roy. Nam 69-72.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 18,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks to those that have posted pictures and documents so we do not forget what is important. History is often ignored at a price of loosing a perspective of where we have been and what we can achieve.

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  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Firsthand history from within the family would be fascinating @Regulated.

    I've read a couple pages that my father photographed that are about being in a caravan across California. I was surprised to discover that my grandfather was a great writer at 18 or 20 years old. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest, although I'm pretty sure he didn't write about his experiences on the islands in the Pacific, which were incredibly traumatic.

    IG: X_COINNERD_X

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 18,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2018 3:22PM

    This is history that needs to be preserved. There are a number of oral history projects at various universities that are looking for these stories.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    Daniel Carr Lesher Silver Token
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We aren’t that far away from losing all living memory of the last, greatest, global war. We would do well to study it, learn from it, and remember what can happen when we aren’t careful.

    Those boys did their duty and didn’t think to do any differently. Our current youth of the same age would have to rise up quite a distance to even see their ankles.

    I have walked the battlefields of France, Luxembourg, Italy, Germany, and Okinawa. US cemeteries are immaculately kept - far better than the British, Canadian, French, or German ones. It is an honor to have part of my taxes go to their upkeep.

    I was offered acceptance to the military medical school and a commission as a Captain in the Air Force. I chose to go a different direction, but I hold our service men & women in the highest regard. Their pay is astonishingly low for what we ask them to do.

    Lest we forget.....,

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 16,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    We aren’t that far away from losing all living memory of the last, greatest, global war. We would do well to study it, learn from it, and remember what can happen when we aren’t careful.

    Those boys did their duty and didn’t think to do any differently. Our current youth of the same age would have to rise up quite a distance to even see their ankles.

    I have walked the battlefields of France, Luxembourg, Italy, Germany, and Okinawa. US cemeteries are immaculately kept - far better than the British, Canadian, French, or German ones. It is an honor to have part of my taxes go to their upkeep.

    I was offered acceptance to the military medical school and a commission as a Captain in the Air Force. I chose to go a different direction, but I hold our service men & women in the highest regard. Their pay is astonishingly low for what we ask them to do.

    Lest we forget.....,

    Of the 16 million US veterans of WWII about 400,000 are still living. Most of those served late in the war and virtually all are now in their 90s.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2018 9:13PM

    @JBK said:

    @ElKevvo said:
    My uncle, Richard James Ahern KIA 12/07/1941 USS Arizona.

    RIP...

    K

    Speechless....

    Your Uncle Richard. Good looking boy. I know how it feels. It seems like a long time ago. But it really wasn't. Family memories and all. It was all just like yesterday. The mother never stopped crying. The sisters never stopped crying. Over the Uncle Richards. So many. So young. They're all gone now. The Uncle Richards, their mothers, their fathers, their brothers and sisters. They don't have to cry anymore. They're all together in a better place. Oh.....this world.

    Uncle Johnny, 1922-1944. Shot down over Germany. Uncles Lloyd and Floyd. 1924-? Twins. Killed in North Africa. Together. I never knew them. Kansas farm boys. I said nobody's crying anymore. Not true. I am.

  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpoppas said:
    Daniel Carr Lesher Silver Token
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    So who got the date wrong you are dan ? 12/7/41 not 7/12/41

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 1:07PM

    It would be quite rare to find anyone under 60 years old who would know what or why Dec 7, 1941 has any significance. Ask a veteran of our recent wars. I have. They're clueless. Even my favorite 38 year old ex-army Ranger friend didn't know. Ditto for a young man I know who is currently a sergeant in the U.S. Army. It's a shame. We're doomed!

    You might as well ask someone to....... "REMEMBER THE ALAMO!"

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...Extremely Proud of my Nephew today...he’s in and long live The Core ;)

    Erik
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My granddaughter finding her namesake.

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    @1940coupe said:

    @Bigpoppas said:
    Daniel Carr Lesher Silver Token
    Imprinted

    1 of 1


    So who got the date wrong you are dan ? 12/7/41 not 7/12/41

    Haha !!
    Leave it up to you Coupe to discover that ;)

    I honestly don’t know the answer to your question as he did so many different ones for me that year and I never noticed it until you just brought it to my attention .. It was sitting in a safe deposit box for years .

    Maybe we should ask Dan ???
    @dcarr

    My Dad while serving in North Africa , Egypt and Italy :)


  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 6,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    7/12/41 stands for 7th of December 1941. That is an old time way of writing the date. It is still done that way by some people.

    GrandAm :)
  • rickoricko Posts: 62,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was born during the war.... Cheers, RickO

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    7/12/41 stands for 7th of December 1941. That is an old time way of writing the date. It is still done that way by some people.

    Thanks Grandam !

    He may have done all of my dated pieces that way..

  • JBKJBK Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    7/12/41 stands for 7th of December 1941. That is an old time way of writing the date. It is still done that way by some people.

    "Some people" = most of the world. ;)

    Not sure if that is/was the military format.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 9:45AM

    @JBK said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    7/12/41 stands for 7th of December 1941. That is an old time way of writing the date. It is still done that way by some people.

    "Some people" = most of the world. ;)

    Not sure if that is/was the military format.

    True. Is still in use today but the format is DDHHHHZ MMM YYYY or DD MMM YYY. Depends on situation and the amount of clarity required to ensure no ambiguity (D=#day, M=first three letters of month, Y=#year, H=24 hour, Z=mil time zone).

    Edit to add example: 081241R DEC 2018 = December 8, 2018 at 12:41PM EST. If the time is not needed, 08 DEC 2018.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 9:06PM

    USS Utah Memorial; Pearl Harbor

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most people these days know nothing about the Doolittle Raid. It was a largely symbolic American raid on Tokyo less than 6 months after Pearl Harbor. B25 bombers were launched from aircraft carriers and made a one way trip to Japan to drop some bombs to let Japan know we could reach them. After the raid the bombers were either ditched in the ocean or crash landed in China.

    It is an incredible story worth learning about. I had the pleasure of corresponding a few times with general Jimmy Doolittle years ago. 103 year old Richard Cole is the last surviving member of the mission.

  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 9:47PM

    @JBK said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    7/12/41 stands for 7th of December 1941. That is an old time way of writing the date. It is still done that way by some people.

    "Some people" = most of the world. ;)

    Not sure if that is/was the military format.

    Having filled out visa applications in the recent past that had the day first and month second I just went to check my passport. Surprise - our own government on the passport itself puts the day first followed by the month and then year. I noted entries from Japan, Russia, and China to also be in accord. So I guess the "some people" turns out to be a pretty large sum of people. :)

    In going through the passport I came across a stamped entry from Russia that puzzles. Clearly the day precedes the month (since we were traveling in July), but how does the "156" translate to a year? The entry read12 07 156.

    (OK, upon further examination I note that (as pictured below) there is a space between the 15 and the 6 so I am going to guess that the 15 is used as an abbreviation for 2015, but that still leaves the final number 6 a mystery. Perhaps an hour? We did disembark early in the morning.)

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2018 10:00AM

    Here's one that came over the Pacific.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very fantastic items of history posted here, thanks to all :smile:

    PS Happy Birthday @EagleEye

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