@Wabbit2313 said:
Am I correct in assuming they will be sent to CAC?
Maybe eventually. Kinda pissed at CAC right now. Recently sent them in a 1891 proof 25c (my favorite series, that I feel I am somewhat an expert in grading after 20 years) that I had allowed to downgrade from NGC 66CAM to a PCGS 65CAM (I think the coin is a 66CAM all day, but was not too concerned as I figured I would get a bean out of it).
Not only did JA not sticker the coin at 65CAM....but they didn't return my NGC cert and they scratched the hell out of my brand new holder:
When I complained about that all I got was "we take the upmost care of holders". So, CAC on my bad side at the moment.
Hard to tell from the picture, but if the coin has deep rich toning about the rims, probably why it did not sticker. CAC does not like that type of toning.
Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
Cover up all of the slab grades and I'd still love the coins for what they are. I find this discussion fascinating and educational; specifically, the CAC sub-discussion reminds me of the story of the three blind men and the elephant.
@BlindedByEgo said:
Cover up all of the slab grades and I'd still love the coins for what they are. I find this discussion fascinating and educational; specifically, the CAC sub-discussion reminds me of the story of the three blind men and the elephant.
The gieger needle on these "stand alone" type of coins are more collector friendly and profitable although the rich man field is much more narrower. In other words, these coins stand a higher chance of finding a new home at any cost than your average collector coins. They are superior, seldom seen, make any collector who has disposable cash extremely happy, no matter what grade or holder they're entombed in brand of coins. For dealers, if the grades are maxed out, there's no incentive to buy them. Therefore, they are not all that profitable. But someone needs to take that hit, don't they? Don't allow that someone be you. You'll easily find someone else who will agree with you wholeheartedly to take those coins off your hands at good prices. The incentive for those type of coins are in the highly desirable field of collectibles.
On the other hand, if you're bent on getting your coins in another type of holder and same grade than you will need to crack and submit, crack and submit and crack and submit, did I say crack and submit? .... until you reach your desirable grades. But this goal might not be attainable if you don't have enough disposable funds to play.
Leo
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@REALGATOR said:
I noticed that PCGS put a + in the Did not Cross label for the 1942 Walker: 6642.85+
What the heck does that mean? Close, but no cigar?
Well, on crosses, the coin is graded, it just isn't removed unless the grade meets the specified standard. My guess is PCGS graded it 67+ or something.
Maybe Wabbit can start a PCGS myth buster thread once he catches his breath.
@RogerB said:
** A "CAC" sticker indicates they would buy the coin - it is not a "grade" opinion. If CAC folks do not happen to have a market for the coins submitted, they might not get little cute stickers.**
Don't play "Monopoly" if you don't know the rules.
Total horse-pucky Wrong. Untrue
And you yourself do not play or participate in monopoly.
When you have no experience, when all your "knowledge" is second-hand and consequently likely anecdotal, your ignorance is appalling.
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@tradedollarnut said:
Heh. Give me a PCGS 68 any day over an NGC68*
So this sounds like a never NGC'er statement to me. I assume you know what the Star designation means. It's possible that your PCGS 68 coin might Star so I would try to remain open minded enough to see a huge part of the market you are currently missing.
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Sexy coin holder? Dang ... you need to get out more!
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I had some NGC to PCGS crossovers earlier this year, and PCGS sent back the previous NGC labels with them.
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Hard to tell from the picture, but if the coin has deep rich toning about the rims, probably why it did not sticker. CAC does not like that type of toning.
Cover up all of the slab grades and I'd still love the coins for what they are. I find this discussion fascinating and educational; specifically, the CAC sub-discussion reminds me of the story of the three blind men and the elephant.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Whatever you've got, I hope it's contagious.
Heh. Give me a PCGS 68 any day over an NGC68*
Me, I'll take the coin I like better
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
The gieger needle on these "stand alone" type of coins are more collector friendly and profitable although the rich man field is much more narrower. In other words, these coins stand a higher chance of finding a new home at any cost than your average collector coins. They are superior, seldom seen, make any collector who has disposable cash extremely happy, no matter what grade or holder they're entombed in brand of coins. For dealers, if the grades are maxed out, there's no incentive to buy them. Therefore, they are not all that profitable. But someone needs to take that hit, don't they? Don't allow that someone be you. You'll easily find someone else who will agree with you wholeheartedly to take those coins off your hands at good prices. The incentive for those type of coins are in the highly desirable field of collectibles.
On the other hand, if you're bent on getting your coins in another type of holder and same grade than you will need to crack and submit, crack and submit and crack and submit, did I say crack and submit? .... until you reach your desirable grades. But this goal might not be attainable if you don't have enough disposable funds to play.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
real collectors care about the coin not the plastic.
Super nice coins!
I noticed that PCGS put a + in the Did not Cross label for the 1942 Walker: 6642.85+
What the heck does that mean? Close, but no cigar?
Agree with you 1peter on the NGC vs PCGS holder. Minimally or non toned Morgan Dollars seem to washout against the white background.
I had not noticed this. Interesting.
Thanks for posting - amazing coins.
Maybe Wabbit can start a PCGS myth buster thread once he catches his breath.
Total horse-pucky Wrong. Untrue
And you yourself do not play or participate in monopoly.
When you have no experience, when all your "knowledge" is second-hand and consequently likely anecdotal, your ignorance is appalling.
It was a joke. Didn't you see the winky face at the end?
It was not my intent to hurt your feelings. Please accept my apology and I promise to be more sensitive when responding to your posts.
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So this sounds like a never NGC'er statement to me. I assume you know what the Star designation means. It's possible that your PCGS 68 coin might Star so I would try to remain open minded enough to see a huge part of the market you are currently missing.
Oops! Wrong thread.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Oops1 Wrong thread.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection